Mike's 1973 D22 Complete tear out. From the Roof down!

Started by RockwoodMike, September 25, 2019, 11:43 PM

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1969 D22, 2 x 1974 D24 Indians, 1977 27' Itasca

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Quote from: RockwoodMike on October 18, 2019, 11:18 PM
I happen to own a CNC Plasma steel cutter..BWAAA HAAA HAAA coff coff coff weeze :)rotflmao Got all the info on how all of these type of machines work from cnczone dot com and decided to build one for myself!!
I needed to make a new skin for the inside of the fender well..Instead of the original aluminum, this is 16 gauge galvanized cold roll steel..Heavier but lots more durable for all that happens in the wheel well..

um hi! I need one of those!
1973 Winnebago D18 with a 318

LJ-TJ

Back atcha. Was wondering how things were going. Any way hope you all have a Merry Christmas and all the best to you in the New Year. Maybe Santa Clause will bring you some good stuff. :)clap

RockwoodMike

Hi Kevin,
I am afraid not..With it getting dark at 4:30 during the winter..I use to be able to work a couple of hours on it after work during the summer..Not right now though..
I have it all covered up..just waiting out the winter weather..
The next thing that I am going to do is drop out the fuel tanks..See what is all with that..There was a fuel delivery problem when I brought it home..with the side open as it is right now, getting to the tanks will be much easier..Then I will put that side back on..
So that is about it..Just hurry up and wait out the winter..
Merry Christmas to you too!!
Mike

ClydesdaleKevin

Any more progress on this Mike?  It has been a while!


And Merry Christmas!!!


Kev
Kev and Patti, the furry kids, our 1981 Ford F-100 Custom tow vehicle, and our 1995 Itasca Suncruiser Diesel Pusher.

Gearhead88


Wow !!!


I just read this entire build thread . You are one determined  and ambitious guy !!




You have some skills !!   :)ThmbUp

Rickf1985

I have had plenty of those welds. you need to turn up the heat and move fast. So you are running higher heat, faster wire and moving faster so that it cools before it has a chance to drop out. If you thin it is hard with MIG try it with stick! With stick I would be using 6010 or 6011 since it is a fast setting rod but it is also deep penetration so you always have a compromise.

LJ-TJ

I smile only because anybody who has welded and had to weld up hill has run into the very same experiance. And yep! our welds looked about like that. Hehehehe

RockwoodMike

Here is a couple of better shots of the 2 welds made on that floor reinforcement Up close and personal..Watching videos on vertical mig and upside down mig, even these professional welders struggle with upside down stuff..Vertical is made going uphill..gun pointed uphill..that worked pretty good for me..but to get into position to make any kind of upside down weld involved being on hand and knees to support yourself..then trying to get it in there without it raining down molten steel on your hands and arms..For what I was working with and the limited skills that I have, I don't think that weld will be going any where soon..On the next attempt, I will open up the argon CO2 mix for a higher flow..That might work..

Rickf1985

I wouldn't have said anything if Mike didn't but since he did it seemed he was kind of frustrated with his results so I figured I would offer what I saw.

LJ-TJ

 :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao  I new you'd catch that Rick. Hey Mike your doing a fantastic job. :)clap Keep up the good work. I'm thinking there's a lot of us look forword to checking in every week now to see how your doing.

Rickf1985

The one weld on the angle looks perfect and the other looks too cold or you had the gas off, really looks like the gas was off, or the wind was blowing. You can't mig weld in the wind. On the fender it looks like you need more heat. Function over form only works when the function holds!

RockwoodMike

And then this tire blow out mess..Right rear mud guard area..The wall is ready to be installed..Just need to fix the details first..while it is easy..The propane lines need to be fixed too..Do a little bit of modifying on that...

RockwoodMike

I am BACK!!!I am doing the best that I can but it gets dark so early now..But this is what I was able to get done today..The plywood along the edge was really sagging..Added some reinforcement..
Did the best I could on the welding..function over form!!

RockwoodMike

Oh Man!! I am so sorry about this..I sold the thing!!..Got an offer that I couldn't refuse!!!!......................NOOOO!! Just Kidding :)rotflmao ..It is the problem with the time change and getting dark at 5pm..I am able to get some work in on it at the end of the day then it is too late to take good pictures..I just took these this morning and I will be doing more this afternoon..
Finished the lower skirt area..not completely..couple of little details but in essence it is done..Now needs to have the top 1/4 ply on top of that..Got some 20 gauge galvanized..Little lighter than the 16 that I used on the front area of the wall....So that needs to be put on..I will just use tin snips to shape all that..Not the plasma (BWA HA Ha) cutter..This all might look like the wall of a Brinks armored truck but it really hasn't added that much weight to it..every piece of wood is there for a reason..Mostly to secure it to the steel framework of the chassis..That frame work around that door hatch opening..It leaked there  before because the screws were secured only with the 24 gauge aluminum that the screws went into..Now there is actual wood!! Imagine that..Screws into wood..what a concept!! Here are some pics

LJ-TJ

Oh! This is painful. However perfection takes a little longer. Withdrawal! That's an understatment.  It's like going to a Saturday Matina and following a Buck Rodgers cerial and finding  out it will be a month before the next sequal filmed.

Rickf1985

Come on now, A week with no progress! We are going into withdrawal here.

Rickf1985

Quote from: RockwoodMike on November 10, 2019, 04:15 PM
Did you notice on the video, that the first guy with the long beard showed his welding..After cleaning the slag..But the other guys didn't show their work Hm? ..Did anyone learn anything on this??  How to act silly and make money on you tube doing it!! :)rotflmao My welder does not have detentes..rotates smoothly..I ran that bead earlier using the 110 plug on a dedicated 20 amp circuit with the dials shown at their positions..Didn't pop the breaker..with a 50 foot 10AWG extension cord ..
Did they go to an inverter style setup? If so it will automatically regulate the output based on the input but even then that is a good looking weld for 110 volts. The true test would be to check the penetration.

RockwoodMike

Working on the wall this afternoon..I just cleaned it up and set it up for the rim joist piece ..the 2x4 that gets screwed into the floor..pressure treated ..You just line up the lower aluminum piece to the upper..lining up the original screw and staple holes..Hold in place with a little tape to keep it from shifting then glue up the 2x4 with plenty of liquid nails..Weigh it down  give it about 2 days to harden up, then start building the skirt frame work..

LJ-TJ

Well thanks lads. Like I said I didn't want to change the direction of the threat. Appreciate the comments. Looks like that's the route I'll go. No Rick I wouldn't insult real welder by thinking I'm a welder. D:oH! :)rotflmao

RockwoodMike

Did you notice on the video, that the first guy with the long beard showed his welding..After cleaning the slag..But the other guys didn't show their work Hm? ..Did anyone learn anything on this??  How to act silly and make money on you tube doing it!! :)rotflmao My welder does not have detentes..rotates smoothly..I ran that bead earlier using the 110 plug on a dedicated 20 amp circuit with the dials shown at their positions..Didn't pop the breaker..with a 50 foot 10AWG extension cord ..

Rickf1985

The difference between 110 and 220 mainly comes down to the amperage available to you. You are going to be limited to around 90 amps on 110 volts. Welding voltage is around 21-27 volts, which is a quarter of the 110 volts coming in. so 90 amps out divided by 4 equals 22.5 amps input at 110 volts. You are probably going to pop a breaker unless it is a 25-30 amp circuit. Where at 220 volts the same 90 amp output is a multiple of 8 so the amperage drawn from the outlet is 11.25. 180 amp maximum power will draw roughly 22.11 amps. 180 amps on 110 volts will draw 45 amps from the outlet!!


Hey TJ, So you wanna be a welder huh, well here you go. 1000 amp stick welding


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61ezBX-EyA

Rickf1985

Do the dials rotate smoothly or do they click into each position? Like position A, B, C, etc or just wherever you leave it? The latter choice is the proffesional model that I have and now I see what the dual means, 110 or 220. With 220 you get a much more stable arc.

RockwoodMike

Just to help with the decision, here is some detail shots of the welder..It comes with 2 cords..each with it's plug to switch it from either voltage ..Just twist and lock the cord to the back of the unit..Comes with a spool of .025 mig wire..Still using it, which shows how little I have used it..And a spool of flux wire..035...The gas regulator..and all the accessory pieces to switch wire gauges at the wire feed..wheels, guide etc.
Looking at the setting chart, it really doesn't add to the max thickness of steel that you can weld..going to 220 just speeds the process up in comparison to the 120..I bought it at the professional welding shop that supplies businesses with gas and tanks..A place that does nothing but welding..Not Home depot or Lowes

LJ-TJ

Ok! Boys, Not to stray to far from the subject. For several months I've been trying to decide on a welder 220. I narrowed it down to the lincoln 180 mig. But there's to many. An opinion would be appreciated. For Farm use as well as Winnie us. Hm?