Mike's 1973 D22 Complete tear out. From the Roof down!

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RockwoodMike

Quote from: Rickf1985 on October 13, 2019, 07:04 PMJust remembering where all this goes is going to be monumental!
Getting it all back together will be easy!!..Just read this thread backwards..Seriously!! The fan shroud will be the first to go back in!! :)rotflmao
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

LJ-TJ

Amazing, Flipping Amazing. This is going to help a hole lot of folks. Probably encourage those who are a little timid to start to start. Well done mate, well done. Keep up the good work.

Elandan2

Looking at the "other" side, couldn't you use a jack to push the floor up into position again? I know in ours, there is a couple of small square tubes inside the floor to provide support for the seat. Then the outer channel could be bent back into position from the outside.
Rick and Tracy Ellerbeck

RockwoodMike

Quote from: Elandan2 on October 14, 2019, 07:54 AM
Looking at the "other" side, couldn't you use a jack to push the floor up into position again? I know in ours, there is a couple of small square tubes inside the floor to provide support for the seat. Then the outer channel could be bent back into position from the outside.
I will get back to you on that..The metal is so stretched, I don't think it would push back flat again..It is going to take some hard work to do that fix..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

Quote from: LJ-TJ on October 14, 2019, 07:36 AM
Amazing, Flipping Amazing. This is going to help a hole lot of folks. Probably encourage those who are a little timid to start to start. Well done mate, well done. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the words of encouragement!! I am just wondering how many people are reading all of this..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

In regards to this repair section..The new Plywood is going to be glued to the original foam..I did a test glue up, because I saw another thread of the attempts to glue plywood to foam without the foam being eaten by the glue..Liquid nails is what I used to glue that top board to secure it to the aluminum skin..Worked great for that..But never used it for foam to plywood during the roof construction..Liquid nails has reformulated the glue as a latex base..I think it use to be a hydrocarbon base..But it works fantastic..Small piece of ply to a scrap piece of foam..Over night clamp..I am totally blown away on the strength of the bond..Did the usual zig zag application..Mated the 2 pieces and kind of wiggled them back and forth..That spread the glue flat and then clamped over night..Worked Great.. :)clap   
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

I have a Wild Hair idea.. Hm? Fixing that port wall..Drop the bottom half like I did with the little starboard side piece..I need to think this through but it might work..Stilt the ceiling up to hold it ..2x4 from ceiling rafter to floor..Screwed together at both ends with that pocket screw system..Maybe 5-6 of those..The wall at the midpoint line is nothing but foam..Cut the foam with that 4 inch putty knife that I have shown earlier..That blue foam is easy to cut..Take out all the mounting screws..I need to look at the back corner to see how that is attached..I need to fix the first panel before I touch this full length wall..But that is the idea..Get it out and lay it on the ground on top of moving blankets..Doesn't get scratched that way..And then repair everything..I think that is what is going to happen..What do you think?? Hm?
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

tmsnyder


Oh don't worry.  We are all reading it.   We just think you are nuts! :)rotflmao :)rotflmao


I'm really enjoying this thread  :) :)ThmbUp





Quote from: RockwoodMike on October 14, 2019, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the words of encouragement!! I am just wondering how many people are reading all of this..

Rickf1985

If you go to this thread, http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=15070.0 , You will see that they took out the entire lower side wall and there are some steel beams in there. I think the two of you can be learning from each other on how to do your rebuilds. Although we have not heard from them lately and you seem to be way ahead of them in some respects.

RockwoodMike

Quote from: Rickf1985 on October 15, 2019, 09:23 AM
If you go to this thread, http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=15070.0 , You will see that they took out the entire lower side wall and there are some steel beams in there. I think the two of you can be learning from each other on how to do your rebuilds. Although we have not heard from them lately and you seem to be way ahead of them in some respects.

I have read and re read that thread and on post 6 it shows this big rotted area and I can not figure out where that section is..The big thing on this is to preserve the skin..It would next to impossible to re create it..And I am seeing it cut up..There really isn't any reason to do that..I just wish they were back on this with any kind of update..Would be interesting to see it and how it is coming along..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

Small progress report :)clap Actually going back together some..I made the new plywood piece that replaced the rot on the right side of the coach..With a typical paper template and using CDX plywood..Then gluing it up like crazy..You got to be careful doing a big piece like this..It will float on the wet glue as you are setting the weights on it and go out of position..After setting all the dumbbells and water jugs on it, it had shifted some..I was able to tap the edge and it re positioned itself..That will set over night..I sanded the blue foam lightly just to clean it up using that palm sander..All it really did was remove the original glue remnants..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

I am going to use this pressure treated wood to rebuild the lower skirt fender well area..Using that pocket screw system and the construction glue..That will never rot away!! :)clap Those two open areas will be stuffed with blue foam..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

LJ-TJ


Elandan2

Actually, you can get new aluminum skin.  https://www.all-rite.com/aluminum-siding-metal.html
I can imagine how much the shipping would be, but...
Rick and Tracy Ellerbeck

RockwoodMike

Quote from: Elandan2 on October 16, 2019, 08:46 AM
Actually, you can get new aluminum skin.  https://www.all-rite.com/aluminum-siding-metal.html
I can imagine how much the shipping would be, but...

Starting at 8.40 a square foot!! Not a lineal foot..SQUARE!! Lets see..About 4 feet wide x 21 feet long..Over $700 just for the sheet..Now ship it..Right!!
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

I glued and screwed the frame work together..Pocket hole system really clamps the joint..With glue in between.WOW!!And then test fit it..Then glued it to the bottom of the new and old plywood..And the skin..We will see how it looks tomorrow
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

tmsnyder

That Kreg system for pocket screws is really handy.

RockwoodMike

I welded back in that sheet metal that I cut out earlier..My mistake that I made earlier..Notice that it is a far away shot..I am a terrible welder especially with sheet steel..But it is back in as that sheet metal has several holes to set screws into the new plywood..This second pic is a fix where the skin had separated from the foam..Reglued..I think tomorrow will be the day the repaired wall panel will go back in :)clap
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

LJ-TJ

Just noticed the gas tank behind the steps. Interesting. You got me hooked. Great job. Following this is better than watching "Dallas" Oooops Not sure you guys would remember the tv show Dallas. Hehehehe

RockwoodMike

Quote from: LJ-TJ on October 18, 2019, 10:02 AM
Just noticed the gas tank behind the steps. Interesting. You got me hooked. Great job. Following this is better than watching "Dallas" Oooops Not sure you guys would remember the tv show Dallas. Hehehehe

I bet it was YOU that shot J.R...It had to be you..During that summer we all had to wait till the fall season..Vegas was laying down odds and taking bets..Even the cast members of the show didn't know, because they produced 3-4 scenes reveling the culprit and only the producers knew which scene they were going to use..Magazine covers with"Who shot JR" With Larry Hagman grinning on the cover with his cowboy hat..I do remember..And both of us are getting old!!
Yes ..2 gas tanks..The front one is an after market tank..Probable both filled with rotted gas..I haven't checked them yet..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

I happen to own a CNC Plasma steel cutter..BWAAA HAAA HAAA coff coff coff weeze :)rotflmao Got all the info on how all of these type of machines work from cnczone dot com and decided to build one for myself!!
I needed to make a new skin for the inside of the fender well..Instead of the original aluminum, this is 16 gauge galvanized cold roll steel..Heavier but lots more durable for all that happens in the wheel well..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

Here is the new compared to the old..The old is bent because the whole panel dropped to the ground when I first took it out D:oH!
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

When I tried to fit the panel up, it wouldn't fit..Couldn't get it to lift into the original seam seal..It was hitting the new plywood on the steel frame..Little bit of trim and it fitted right in..It is in!!! :)clap Fully screwed into place..Solid as a brick!!
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!

RockwoodMike

Quote from: tmsnyder on October 17, 2019, 08:13 AM
That Kreg system for pocket screws is really handy.

I plan on using this Kreg system through out this restore..New cabinets..fixing these walls..I don't know how else it was done..
The best mechanic is the one that can make it run with the least amount of parts!