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#21

Dodge - Chrysler Chassis / Re: No power to rear lights (t...

Last post by mytoolman - April 12, 2024, 03:03 PM

Guys IMHO the Power Probe 3 is a remarkable tool for this type of work. Of course there are related tools that also do the job but this one tool handles all of what several do by itself.


https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-III-Case-Acc/dp/B006P5E87K/ref=asc_df_B006P5E87K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312280085431&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12440881966732950264&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061189&hvtargid=pla-450195997104&mcid=ea5f919ea061349e805393c4a3f08aea&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1e-85629hQMVdkp_AB02IQVFEAQYASABEgLez_D_BwE&th=1

#22

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by 78chief - April 12, 2024, 12:34 AM

https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=15119.new#new

Take a look at this posting I just did..Last page..number 621

I think this will work..

Funny I found and was just reading your build thread when you post this. Keep up the good work

#23

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by RockwoodMike - April 11, 2024, 10:56 PM

https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=15119.new#new

Take a look at this posting I just did..Last page..number 621

I think this will work..

#24

Project Blogs / Re: Mike's 1973 D22 Complete t...

Last post by RockwoodMike - April 11, 2024, 10:53 PM

I worked on the roof today..The front "eyebrow" area..

Making a tapered roof to transition to a flat panel eyebrow piece..

3 trial and errors..successful on the 4th..

Pic 1..The eyebrow is made in 4 section..just working on the top first section..I tried to bend plywood to flex to the contour I needed..And the plywood wasn't having anything to do with it..
So first piece is just a flat plywood, spanning the full width of the motorhome..The bottom matches the inside of the roof rafters that are tapered on the top edge of the rafters..

Pic 2 ..I made these individual triangles..11 of them..Thick in the middle tapering to thinner out towards the edge..The back edge of the pieces are lower than the finish plywood already installed..I believe the plywood is 3/8 thick that was done about 3 years ago..Yea I have been on this for a while!!

Pic 3..Using 5 mil plywood as a topper for these triangles  ..to flex and shape from a taper to a flat transition..Ply wood this thin lays down nice and conforms to shape!!..Found the 5 mil plywood at Lowe's

Pic 4..With a sanding disc on my grinder, just tapering the edge to match the 3/4 ply at the final edge..

I hope you can see how this works..I was thinking of filling in the triangle pieces with foam sanded down to shape to have a solid base to support the 5 mil plywood better.. 

#25

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by 78chief - April 11, 2024, 06:52 PM

Well..I have been working on this all day and I am having one  of a time..I kinda wish I had not put so much taper to it..Going from a taper to flat with plywood is not going easy..

I am going to cut grooves on the back side of the plywood to make it flexible to create the transition..

Think this through..I think I have made a mess..maybe you shouldn't be listening to all this..I may have screwed up in a big way  

Sorry to hear your having trouble. I would think you would need to have the flat, but round out from there.  the sharp corner transition from the flat to the taper is probably the issue.

#26

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by RockwoodMike - April 11, 2024, 05:52 PM

Well..I have been working on this all day and I am having one  of a time..I kinda wish I had not put so much taper to it..Going from a taper to flat with plywood is not going easy..

I am going to cut grooves on the back side of the plywood to make it flexible to create the transition..

Think this through..I think I have made a mess..maybe you shouldn't be listening to all this..I may have screwed up in a big way  

#27

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by 78chief - April 11, 2024, 02:03 PM

Not a bad idea but I'm going to hopefully just do it once and for all and I think a taper is a better option. No issues with roof ac I no longer have one I have a mini split with the out door unit installed in the origional on board genorator location and the cooling unit above the bathroom.

#28

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by RockwoodMike - April 11, 2024, 12:08 PM

Maybe I am making a mistake telling you all about this taper roof scheme..

What if you rip the original roof off that has sagged ..instead of using tapered wood...you use 1.25 square steel tubing for the rafters..

Maybe doubled up at the air conditioner..You would have a flat roof again but very much sag resistant..

Top the 1.25 tubing with 1/4 ply and you would have a strong flat roof to match the front.

I am ripping everything..You are trying to preserve the interior..That might be a better way to go(going flat again but stronger)

#29

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by 78chief - April 11, 2024, 11:47 AM

I used 2x3 Kiln dried wood because all the 2x4 wood was not kiln dried..heavy with water..Besides, you are looking for a small taper in the roof to create runoff..

So my 2x3 has a total height of 2.5 inches in the middle and taper to 1.25 at the edges..Add 1/4 inch exterior grade plywood on top of that and you have 1.5 total thickness at the edge..

That 1.5 thickness is the same as the original roof..That can match the wall to reattach (staples, screws) the wall to the roof..

Now here is the problem with all this and I am dealing with it right now..

That taper that you are creating has to go flat again at the very front of the motorhome..The front "eyebrow" look at leading edge of the roof is flat..

How to go from a taper to a flat area is going to be something I will tackle soon..(Next week)

If you are saying the interior is in good shape, I would carefully peel the aluminum off..little pieces at a time..Then carefully remove the flat foam..little pieces at a time..

Thus leaving the 1/8th plywood that is the interior ceiling..

Create your roof rafters..stuff insulation between the rafters..top with 1/4 ply..and then roll on a rubber or other type of glue on roll roofing that you see all new and white..

I placed my rafters 16 on center..1/4 exterior ply..All glued and screwed..

I will stay tuned let me know hat you do in the front.

#30

Coach / Re: Photos of Roof Repair & Re...

Last post by RockwoodMike - April 11, 2024, 10:51 AM

I used 2x3 Kiln dried wood because all the 2x4 wood was not kiln dried..heavy with water..Besides, you are looking for a small taper in the roof to create runoff..

So my 2x3 has a total height of 2.5 inches in the middle and taper to 1.25 at the edges..Add 1/4 inch exterior grade plywood on top of that and you have 1.5 total thickness at the edge..

That 1.5 thickness is the same as the original roof..That can match the wall to reattach (staples, screws) the wall to the roof..

Now here is the problem with all this and I am dealing with it right now..

That taper that you are creating has to go flat again at the very front of the motorhome..The front "eyebrow" look at leading edge of the roof is flat..

How to go from a taper to a flat area is going to be something I will tackle soon..(Next week)

If you are saying the interior is in good shape, I would carefully peel the aluminum off..little pieces at a time..Then carefully remove the flat foam..little pieces at a time..

Thus leaving the 1/8th plywood that is the interior ceiling..

Create your roof rafters..stuff insulation between the rafters..top with 1/4 ply..and then roll on a rubber or other type of glue on roll roofing that you see all new and white..

I placed my rafters 16 on center..1/4 exterior ply..All glued and screwed..