Classic Winnebagos & Vintage RVs

Hi my name iss Thomas from Germany, and my englich iss Bad - Sorry
My new Projekt iss a Winnebago from 1976.
You can see it on my HP:
http://rallye-team-schmitt.de.tl/Winnebago-Chieftain-2014.htm (http://rallye-team-schmitt.de.tl/Winnebago-Chieftain-2014.htm)

I hope you can read it and, if appropriate, give me a hand, if I do not know what to do with the renovation. But I must leave the text unfortunately translated by Google  :-[

Thomas

 :)rotflmao Aw your English is just fine and welcome aboard. That's a pretty nice looking rig you got there. :)ThmbUp

Thanks for the praise - but that's not my English, what I learned 30 years ago times  :laugh:  ... I must just be translated via Google  W% .
Yes, I am also been very surprised when I discovered the little ones here in Germany (Ebay). The substance is perfect. OK, the interior of the walls is too dark and the carpet is finished ... so I deal later. Currently my main focus is true of technology. The vehicle was the last 20 years on a site and was covered. Various engine problems I've already solved but have also add some before me. The carburetor should not be entirely on the present state of the art. Maybe coming here so another tip, what could be improved there. More engine power and less fuel consumption should be desirable for Germany (1 liter petrol = 150 to 1.60 â,¬) The issue of exhaust still needs to be addressed, because I see a lot of potential here. Aerodynamically this is not exactly designed. But that is still a bit "pie in the sky", because only the technology and the Electrical should again be revamped to get here in Germany again for road use.

Thomas

Well if your get 5 to 8 miles to the gallons I'm guessing 8 to 12 k to 3.7 Lt your doing good.

1 American mile is 1.61 KM / 1 make U.S. gallon is 3.79 liters

But your text will be translated very modest, sodas I do not really understand it  D:oH!

Thomas

Welcome . My Chevrolet 454 7.4L engine has gas mileage of about 6.4-7.4 Miles per gallon.  So that is about 11.14KM per 3.79L or 3.14Km per Liter.  That is also driving about 90-100km/hr speed.  I hope the information here translates well, if you need any translation my nephew speaks fluent German and I can ask him to translate for us to better answer your questions. You can PM (Personal message) me on this website.

Tina

Hallo! Ich bin auch neu hier und ich habe eine 1976 Chieftain, wie gut! Mir ist ein D23, so dass die Innenraumgestaltung ist von Ihnen ein wenig anders, sonst würde ich denken, dass sie im Grunde das gleiche Fahrzeug! Viel Glück mit Ihrem Projekt! Ich bin sicher, Sie werden viel Hilfe hier, ich weiß, ich habe! Und ich habe Google für diese als gut!  :D

Wilkommen, Thomas!


Your Winnebago looks very nice! 


You may already know, but these take a special thermostat on top of the water pump.  It is called a 'skirted' thermostat, and you can find many references for it on this site.


Enjoy working on her,
Walt

@Tiinytina:
Hi Tina, your offer for the special translations I find class and thank you very much in advance for that. For surely it is determined what are incurred in the future in this direction. In the consumption itself, I'm making less thoughts. I know that this is higher compared to European cars ... but a V8 is and remains a V8. The problem is rather the associated costs. 1l (0.264 gallon) here cost between 1.50 to 1.60 â,¬ uro ... these are currently about 2,025 U.S. $;-) What does the gasoline currently with you? ;-) Because of this, I simply raises the question of whether there is not today "modified" and more efficient carburetor. Then the Winnebago is still converted to LPG - as fuel costs fall by a further 50%

@JesAm:
Du läßt auch per Google übersetzen  :) Liest sich gut und ist verständlich  :)clap Ich bin noch ein kompletter Neuling in Sachen Winnebago ... aber soweit ich es blicke, dürften unsere Fahrzeuge sich nur durch die Innenausstattung / Raumaufteilung unterscheiden  ;)

Translation for all others:
@ JesAm:
You can also translate by Google Reads well and is understandable I am still a complete novice when it comes Winnebago ... but as far as I look it, our vehicles are likely to differ only by the interior design / layout

@PwrWgnWalt:
Hello Walt. No, I did not know, because the cooling circuit completely open (ie disconnected and removed) was. I'm Sure, it already was a topic here - but this is to find out and read for me quite difficult because I have to let me translate everything via Google. So I'm glad if someone helps me and I might pretends direct links.


@ all:
Thank you for your very warm welcome and support  :)ThmbUp  I think it's super nice and great and am looking forward here in the future the next steps and conversions show off. Never surprised you, however, how is my English - is a PC. I must also abide by the German TÃœV approval for the road ... trust me, who wants viewed from your perspective, just funny things  :laugh:

Quote from: Schmitti on July 18, 2014, 05:28 PM
@JesAm:
Du läßt auch per Google übersetzen  :) Liest sich gut und ist verständlich  :)clap Ich bin noch ein kompletter Neuling in Sachen Winnebago ... aber soweit ich es blicke, dürften unsere Fahrzeuge sich nur durch die Innenausstattung / Raumaufteilung unterscheiden  ;)

Ich glaube, Sie sind richtig. :)ThmbUp Ich habe mir kaufte vor etwa zwei Wochen. Es hat viele Schichten von Silikon an den Nähten und especailly auf den Fenster Nähten... Ansonsten scheint es zu laufen toll. Wir nahmen es auf einem 70 Meile Rundfahrt am vergangenen Wochenende.

Glückwunsch  :)ThmbUp Ich beneide Dich schon ein klein wenig  W% An Rundfahrten oder so, ist bei meinem noch lange nicht zu denken  :'(
Noch habe ich keinen funktionierenden Blinker, da das Teil in der Lenksäule defekt ist. Neue Reifen müssen drauf und die Motorkühlung, sowie die Benzinversorgung des Motors liegt noch total im Argen  :'( Da ich zeitlich mit meiner eigenen Firma auch etwas eingebunden bin, hab ich leider auch nicht täglich Zeit, mich um das Auto zu kümmern.

Thomas


Translation for all others:
Congratulations :) ThmbUp I envy you already a tiny bit W% on cruises or so, is still far to think of my: '(
I still have no working turn signals, because the part is defective in the steering column. New tires have on it and the engine cooling system, and the fuel supply to the engine is still totally in a bad way: '(Since I am involved in time with my own company also something I've unfortunately not daily time to take care of the car.

Thomas

Please use English in the posts as the vast majority of our members do not speak German but everyone would like to be able talk with you too!


:)

Honestly we barely speak english :laugh:

Ain't dat da truth

Thermostat Links

http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php/topic,2629.msg43083.html#msg43083

http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php/topic,6951.msg30134.html#msg30134

Yeah, Wbago speaks English. We speak American mostly.

Hi guys,
of course I will continue to post here in English. For me however, it was a matter of courtesy, that if someone speaks to me in German, which I will reply accordingly  :-[

@Lefty:
Thank you for your links which help me a lot. I have thus found that I have already bought the wrong thermostat  :'( :laugh:

Thomas

Quote from: Schmitti on July 19, 2014, 03:15 AM
Hi guys,
of course I will continue to post here in English. For me however, it was a matter of courtesy, that if someone speaks to me in German, which I will reply accordingly  :-[

Thomas

Of course there's no problem with replying in German as a courtesy.  As a courtesy to everyone else, please provide the English translation as well. 

A note on this Projects board.  This was added so that projects you do can be shared in detail, so others can benefit from it.  That's the key purpose.  It's particularly good when there's a LOT of projects going on at the same time, or several of them one after the other.

It's really not for a list of "I did this, I did that" with no detail of how it was done.  It's also not for asking questions on how to do things. Those go on the boards that relate to the nature of the question being asked.

"To do" lists of things being done without detailed descriptions get moved to the general board in order to keep this one as informative on "How I did it" projects.


I've tried to keep the number of message boards to a minimum to make it as easy as possible for information to be found and posted.  Each has a detailed description of what goes on it in order to help you know which one to use.


:)ThmbUp

I've even made ​​the effort and dismantled the second underground tank. Thus, the fuel bill is reduced by future ca.144 liter and generates space for a sufficient large-sized gas tank.
The complete wiring / fuel lines for it and for the factory-mounted generator for electricity (which is no longer there), fell victim to my expansion mania  ;)
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwintank.jpg&hash=a66ce1dd8873b120e561d62ff62058a6b7a8db0f)

At the same time I could devote myself to the shock absorbers on the front axle. They looked a bit too scruffy already - therefore moved here a few new one
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinstossdaempfer.jpg&hash=da3273091f5d9326e1d536c52faf31027023b6ba)

Thomas

Today was again NEN afternoon time to look at the little ones to do something.
First, I replaced the old fuel pump because the old man is likely to become brittle in the area of the membrane. They did their job no longer reliable.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fbenzinpumpeneu.jpg&hash=5f9752d627a7a50c233ba5ca74f8ae28780e6a81)

Also my thought, this should be a nearly 40-year-old water pump renewed once was not wrong. After I removed the fan and drive belts, I could break down the old thing with a hammer and chisel.
Here the sight compared:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwapuvergleich.jpg&hash=3efe7f23a8e63c3d047364caea4da321cb53b8f0)

In a similar case ... but nutfree sight:
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After everything was thoroughly cleaned and de-rusted, this is now clean in place:
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The pulleys and belts, as well as a new thermostat have migrated directly back into the engine compartment. Thereafter I devoted myself to the radiator / heater hoses, since the owner has raged bad. After I had given me clarity here, which is probably how well connected, I have the tubing connected with a new heater valve. That's what I was able to enjoy short, because when filling the radiator he was "woman-friendly" ... he licked. 2 small, lousy holes have crept in here. So I can only think that he did not like the whole dry season and coincided in itself to me. Well ... now rather than later on the highway.

In the dashboard I found a display with which I can not do anything. Can you tell me what the clock AT T is?

In the "chassis" I would have a help request, made ​​with respect to a new cooler. However, my chassis (Chrysler) is not there yet, and I hope now that this is now not a "fault" is it to post here.
From Germany, the search for a new design and matching cooler unfortunately somewhat difficult. Could someone provide a link to disposal, which an order could arangieren easier to me?
The cooler is the following code:
Chrysler
3827 621
18398
I hope it helps and thank you in advance.

Your Chrysler chassis is listed under Dodge.

I don't understand what you mean by "cooler'? Are you talking about the Air Conditioner?

AT&T clock? Maybe it's an aftermarket clock, not original to the vehicle? The only AT&T I'm familiar with is a telephone company here in the US.

Sorry I can't be more help. I'm new to RVs myself.

Schmitti
Try this link - scroll to the bottom of the page:

http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=740.0

I am not a "Chrysler" person, but if you are doing a search you may find more information if you search under "Dodge" as opposed to "Chrysler".

Hope this helps.

By the way, I believe what you refer to as "cooler" is what we refer to as "radiator".

Dodge P/N 3827621 is for a radiator in a 75-76 Dodge 440-3 motorhome chassis.  Unfortunately they are not produced new any more.  You will either have to get a radiator shop (special order) to re-core yours or convert to something else.  Re-core here in the US is typically a $400-$500 job.  I hate to think what that might be in the UK.  Please do a site search for 440-3 radiator.

Dave

@JessAm:
The clock looks pretty original to me and sorry, of course I meant the radiator - Google translated it somewhat differently than intended.
Are Dodge and Chrysler identical? That's good to know. Here go all vehicle parts only Manufacturer / Vehicle Make / Model rauszusuchen .. by pure part numbers goes nothing.

@TerryH:
Thanks for the link, I will read me now take a closer look. I also just found out this is the German expression ( "Kühler"=cooler) with you the radiator  :)

@DaveVA78Chieftain:
Thanks for the advice. However, I'm in Germany and have to look around here. Most companies in the UK do not ship to Germany, and even bucking the contact. I can not think why though - but I will not go into detail on it ... just say: My year of birth is the 1972nd W%

Thanks for all help
Thomas

GM was the parent company for Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Pontiac, Delco etc.
Ford is the parent company for Ford and Mercury
Chrysler is the parent company for Chrysler, Dodge, Mopar, and Plymouth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler))

Dave

Hello Thomas und Willkommen  :D 

nice blog you got there. Very interesting, if you need help with technical translation (uebersetzungen) send me an PM.

Good luck with you winnie.

If you get enough stuff together, palettes from the US are only around $200. Even packages are not to bad, If you are willing to wait for a combined transport (Sammeltransport 6-8 weeks)

Gruesse from eX-Munich

Sebastian

@ DaveVA78:
The "family relationships" the company was known to me, not only here in the forum. Nevertheless, thanks for the list.

eXodus:
So far I could organize everything here in Germany, as far as parts. What could happen in the future, would engine parts (headers, intake manifold and carburetor) - I'm happy to make you.
Greetings from Germany:-)

The "sieve" alias radiator is out and will be transported to a cooler construction company.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fkuehleralt.jpg&hash=4454bbd7a0bdd2d6c45f28172e1f06d7176551a3)

Thomas

Again, several small steps further. For the gas cylinders I have the space and time provided incl. Renewed the fortifications and the lines
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fgasflaschenraum.jpg&hash=8604d43a7c3601dbf69afd0cdee13de59d888dde)
Because now is still purely an additional bulkhead to accommodate a generator.

However, my main focus is currently on the brake system.
The master cylinder is apparently broken a seal. Here knows someone happen to know if there is a seal can be replaced "only" - and if so, where can I get them
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fhauptbremszylinder.jpg&hash=6b012fbdd531288f16cb0fb25ba16bde53f909d6)

and the brake lever (especially the great spring) seems to me not just to be series. Does anyone happen to have a photo for me, how did this look right?
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fbremshebel.jpg&hash=b7fd13e88057b2a5de5fb4a99f8a3b3c6f7edf2d)

Among the various layers of paint (maroon) and spatula came this rätzelhafte plate to light. It is located behind the right, just above the bumper - does anyone know what times since it was? Is it something important?
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheckschild.jpg&hash=b5d6acc94b98370f4f94f698ab030ad7c2fefb13)

Thanks for your further help already in advance
Thomas from Germany

No idea for the brakes, but the sticker plate was some time ago the Vehicle Identification Tag.


There had been useful information like weight and tow rating on there. Probably don't need in Germany, have you got the Serial Number of your Motorhome ? you could send a email to Winnebago costumer support and they will tell you all what was on this plate.

Ahh, cool to know that times. For Germany rather unnecessary but very interresting for me. Thanks for the note  :) 

Here in Germany the authorities tend to go on the VIN plate (left side of the driver's seat), the number in the engine compartment and chassis number (which must be taken in the right wheel arch on the frame). All other stickers are there quite uninteresting  D:oH! :laugh:

Thomas

I think the turn is now imminent. It should now all be advanced so that the completion and reconstruction in the interior and the technology can begin.
As a final work for the expansion we have now removed the 40years old carpet and the reluctant backing out scratched with spatula.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinteppich1.jpg&hash=66017088988220465380800f493f0aa8b7fea0db)
... The black is the way the back!

Then finally looked like this:
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Since the master brake cylinder had leaks, even this is now being expanded and may be outdated:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinhauptbremszylinder1.jpg&hash=f12e619061ebf3a2bb70216d67ce23962a4c34d1)

The carburettor has migrated to the local workbench to time to learn a revision and cleaning:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinvergaser1.jpg&hash=d0ef81dd09403f30b59f46da7839699993bf2d66)
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinvergaser2.jpg&hash=aebf29d90300ba1ed13f8b714bbbd5802093c730)


I asked a few posts before after the indicating instrument, "AT & T" ... for that I must apologize. The pointer of the instrument is directly on the label. Would be correct: "ALT" ... which indicates to me this clock?

Maybe "ALT" means alternator... if it's on the instrument panel, it probably indicates how well your alternator is generating power.

I looks like you're making good progress. ... I would remove those seat mounts while you're working around there... It will be easier to install carpet also.

Aaaah, thank you for pointing out what the clock is there  :)ThmbUp .

Yes, the seat attachment and the straps are still disassembled to remove the rest and to lay the new carpet. However, I was alone and could not also work in the interior and in the wheel to release the screws  ;) D:oH! :D .

Thomas

Today I am once made ​​ran and built a bulkhead, because in addition to the gas bottles a generator is to be installed.

Backbone of aluminum angle:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschottwand1.jpg&hash=2ae8318a72841c82da35b2c4777802686bc967d5)

Adapted and tailored a suitable aluminum sheet
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschottwand2.jpg&hash=7c553c832a66af3f4e3bdfe63e871e4c073ade89)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschottwand3.jpg&hash=0da59f984fb6e7a541de474051cf2519bc43427a)

The two gas bottles still fit inside
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschottwand4.jpg&hash=018b554be3d2c37afdd46470c97ac93ca432dda8)

And sealed gas-tight (our dear TÃœV) it is even and beautiful
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschottwand5.jpg&hash=37a612c4fe2fad4b504d01f9368861a77e782153)

Thomas

Wow, today was the first of all bad and at the same time expensive message, since the project began. The reconditioning of the radiators - through a new network for the water and the oil will cost me â,¬ 1500  $@!#@! 
Currently these are the equivalent of about 1940.40 U.S. Dollar  $@!#@!

Thomas

Again, several small steps progressed.
I have the seats can be equipped with functional again - the folding / swivel function is given again and can now be found in any position
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinsitzefertig.jpg&hash=d9431bed9289a395aa79e00b6fb0549cbbd2f01a)

While I was busy with the seat mechanism, removed my girlfriend the complete silicone on the roof
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwindachschlumpf1.jpg&hash=e65279061d971a752c7d77c95d1b481f67050f06)
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwindachschlumpf2.jpg&hash=ab4373b5b015e35986abbf2472bdf5e1a6607429)

So it looked finished:
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When I was done with the seats, I lifted the rear axle and unscrewed the Zwilingsreifen.
Gruesome sight ... so I dared the crossing. The hardened, black things are certainly still the original tires of the 1976th
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinreifen1.jpg&hash=8777d8222af644fea11ce8a6880316bfe8963fcc)

The flanks are no less daunting:
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Open views over the axle and work space.
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Thomas from Germany

That shop is larger than my entire property.  I have to move 2 cars into the street to turn mine around...    :)rotflmao

Well, this shop is unfortunately not me. I am there also a guest of a very good friend, because mine is also too small. Although I get 4-5 cars inside ... but European cars  ;) :D

Thomas

The first parts to come back already. Accordingly, so slowly dismantled the assembly I have enough starts, because.
The radiator is completely remade and has found its bursts in the front engine compartment. So I could also complete again and finish the engine compartment. As a splash container was missing, I took one from the Opel Kadett E (known in the USA as the Pontiac LeMans https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconv/5917551906/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconv/5917551906/)  ). Of this I have enough parts in stock and he gave a few easy steps.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinkuehlerneu.jpg&hash=c0ac0bf845ab9d2f7ecb53dc1d06046ad2e87c0c)

Thomas

Welcome and look forward to seeing your project and it's completion.   Good luck and Looking good  :)clap

Many thanks. However, I still see no early conclusion. Even though I have the goal to have at least a street legal end of the year - there is still much to do and my time to do something is in short supply.

Thomas

I like how your propane bottle compartment turned out. Very well designed and built.  :) I was wondering why you didn't use the propane area that was already built into the Winnebago?

Is easy  ;) . Firstly, the system was no longer present and the other is the American system is unfortunately not allowed here in Germany  $@!#@!

Thomas

Well, the new area looks great:)

From the absence of other replacement parts, the reconstruction of the kitchen went off.
So it looked times from:
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The unused, portable gas stove construction did not like me. Therefore, a new worktop was fitted and rearranged the kitchen.
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The connections must now be made ​​and then you can set up the doors.

I call that a gas stove:
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Also on the floor it started. With 40 grit and one eccentric sander we went to the dirt on the collar, not polished off times, but was sanded down.
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The picture is not blurred ... is the flying dust

So you can see the difference better:
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With a clear coating then something comes to the fore:
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Is just still wet:
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Thomas

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Very interesting way to do the floor. Nice job!

I also like your propane set up. I would actually prefer it to the large mystery tank that is underneath my unit.

Love that gas stove!  :)

Thank you for the many praise  :)ThmbUp .
I decided consciously against a carpet or similar flooring. For one, I like wood in its appearance and on the other it is easier to keep clean. Also, the extra weight is a criterion. I myself am curious to see how the floor then looks final. The pictures show him yes it is still wet. Also it must be (work at the end of all interior) once sanded and repainted at a later date. I hope he lightens up a bit  W% .
The gas stove had done it to my friend as well - so I buy it  ;)

Thomas

Practical, as well as optical practice test, DC-Fix (http://www.d-c-fix.com/ (http://www.d-c-fix.com/)) using a roller. I would say that was our optical test successfully. Because so slowly gives way to the charm of the 70 (now also like Darkroom called  :laugh: ) in a bright and friendly atmosphere.
With the flash it looks much brighter than it is in Natura.
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The effect is as desired ... Light & friendly. . The curtains, including the rails are now everywhere from - Black Forest is not in our "cottage" is announced  ;)

Thomas

Even small steps will lead to the goal. So I can check today and found the air conditioning, which she runs but cools the fan does not move -> need an electrician to have a go.
The exhaust (which is not really worthy of the name), is mostly from before and stands in the corner ... and ashamed
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For the generator, I will build a drawer to use it easily. But I have bought full extension rails and ever fitted - now so I could take the exact measurement in order to make the frame.
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Thomas

The American has other drainage pipes and are not to get in Germany - and if so, for â,¬ impossible figures. However, a suction hose from the pond accessories offers a very cost effective alternative. He is very flexible and smooth inside. With grease spray on the tube, warm tube and with much effort, the hose went with ornate persuasion and turn on the tube. The whole still secured with a hose clamp and eat well.

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Today I was able to devote the wretched exhaust me sometimes. With an electric hand saw I cut off the Y-pipes.
The whole misery at a glance:
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Then it was off piece by piece under the Winni on. Leftover 2.5 "stainless steel exhaust pipes from the construction of my rally cars found here their use stapled together under the car.:

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A decent V8 need in my opinion for each cylinder bank one strand, so the whole again, until finally came out here:

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Thomas

Amazing, absolutely amazing. What a great job your doing as well as an inspiration to others. Thanks for all the pictures.

I love it....but why no crossover?.....if ya go to all that trouble.

where is the catalysator ?


probably is there no space for an X or H connection.
i dont know why you built downward endpipes but there must be a reason.  you are not towing a closed vehicle which you enter soon after driving with this exhaust or ?

@ LT-TJ
Many thanks  :)ThmbUp . If it's been the weak point in the text, so I can compensate with the pictures perhaps  :laugh: .

@ Pvoth & eXodus
The Winni has no catalyst N:( .
I want only times the sound of the exhaust in its current state hear before I weld a H-Pipe a  :) .
If the Winni is even finished, he should pull my rally car. This is transported on an open trailer - but the car itself is closed. A side exit I did not want to. Leading the end down, I do not see as a problem. Especially since the end still far ahead of the rear axle. Each transporter in Europe also goes so and there are no problems  Hm? .

Thomas

The replacement part for the turn signal operation, including the operating lever is moved to the steering column.
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Thanks again for the good advice here with links  :)ThmbUp :)

The new generator is moved by means of a drawer to its place. This should electroless weekends of the past.

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Thomas

do you plan to run it in the bay ?

It is planned that option. The generator is indeed already mounted on rubber but until that happens, still comes a sound insulation lining in the bay and a fan for cooling pure.

Thomas

you need a freaking big fan. this generator is air cooled and not designed to be run in a bay.


Maybe cut the one of the walls out. under load this thing will,produce about 15kw of heat.

I am aware that develops a strong generator of heat. To my knowledge, the series generator is also an air-cooled model of Onan. Therefore, the door's slit and all over.

Here in the picture still easily recognizable.
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If it should be in operation to hot, I will devote myself to the problem and use a corresponding thereto fan. Spal I have various motor sports fan in stock - blowing or sucking whether to operate. Still, it is (unfortunately) not yet as far as I'm on a green meadow camping. Therefore, I will devote myself to the fan only when the Winni has been approved for the road and all the other things are done to him.

Thomas

yeah the onan is air cooled to, but has a fan which was designed to be operated in a bay.


First things, First I agree. Get that thing to the street.

Schmitti I would not worry about heat especially since you can slide it out into the fresh air A electric radiator fan mounted on the door will suffice for when you have to operate with the door closed . I have used this type generator for years I found that if and when it overheats it just quits running(wich can be disasterous if it happens when under a load (it takes out the voltage regulator) As it slows to a stop wile trying to keep up output . I just had to replace mine but it was due to squirells eating insulation . (see projects & my Gallery pics) My original was a Honda Replaced with a chinese Harbor Freight Predatator Both look exactly the same  Frank

I'm currently absolutely no idea about the heat. Although I have taken (so he might also use actually wrong in the house) and a plan in mind, what I will do - but as I said, right now it is more important to me that the Winni receive an approval.
I had the generator normally not yet bought me when I could have bought him not just as low (â,¬ 195 / US $ 247.81). For the present time he is actually useless, since even much more important work in the few currently are doing.

Thomas

A surprise visit to the workshop was clamped directly to work with
Since still missing important parts of the States for the technology, the interior was further embellished.
What is meant is this area:
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The carpet was indeed removed some time ago. Now the holders of the seats, the pedals and the hand brake were dismantled. Derusted the floor and cleaned.
Passenger footwell:
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Inserted the new PVC and cut:
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A very strong adhesive tape for support:
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At the same time the hood was cleaned by the girls:
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Likewise, lush pasted to get the curves clean out:
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Here comes the delicate women's power:
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Then, in order to obtain an overall result:
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Thomas

Very nice!  :)

Thank you for your positiv Comment  :)

Thomas

The interior rejuvenation continues. The first half of the living room was also new and bright "papered". Missing only the corner posts and the cushion.
Original condition:
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Guest bed fold down and everything disturbing Remove:
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... And what we find in the unmade bed? The first woman  :laugh: ;)
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Everything is annoying out:
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The first wall is finished:
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New view:
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Thomas

Hi Mr Schmitti. I watched a television show about Motorhomes in Europe and they had a pull out cartridge sewage tank instead of a mounted sewage tank. Are you going to have to switch to a cartridge system with your motorhome?

@acenjason,


do you really mean a pull out sewage tank or did you see a composting toilet ? http://natureshead.net/


There are some Transporter conversion which have indeed have changeable sewage tanks. But they are very small (5 Gallon).
I don't know if I would like to move something bigger with Blackwater in it.

Schmitti, That exhaust worries me. Dumping under the motorhome like that it WILL end up getting inside through all of the minute cracks and openings. The exhaust will pool up behind the coach in the low pressure area directly behind the coach and also find ways in there. This is a very dangerous setup. That is why they run out the side originally. The fact that the area behind the coach is low pressure it could possibly make the whole coach negative pressure and draw in the exhaust even more. Be SURE to have at two good CO detectors in there when driving if you leave it this way.

I have the same straight pipes under mine in exception that the mufflers are in the middle, and my wife always complains of the smell of exhaust in the back gaucho area.
rick you may have just figured out what has been causing this for years in mine. I didn't put it in there the P.O. did.  probably wouldn't take much to change it...

Installing Air Tabs will reduce the low pressure area behind the rig That is there purpose . See @ airtabs.com  Frank

Hi guys,
the waste water tank will remain as he is. I think it's great and good. The small (Dixi) toilets must be emptied daily - but I will not always have the opportunity to do so in the future, because I'm much camping "in the meadow".

On the subject of exhaust. This is a very difficult issue in Germany. There are conditions that are strictly controlled by the TÃœV. If I lead the side ends out, I get no street legal. Just as the exhaust is now, I just have to try it. Does it not so, there is absolutely no problem for me to change again. I am by profession Schlosser (metal workers) and have the tubes / sheets without end in my workshop. If it does not work so I have to hold the pipes lead over the rear axle and to the bumper.

Exodus, if you google APEX CASSETTE TOILET you can see the type of set up that the show said motorhomes use over there. I was wondering if Thomas will have to convert to a cassette set up to ........fit in.  But I agree with him about not changing . The cassette seems awkward:)

Continuing with the beautification of the interior.
The cornice in the living room is used:
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The edge of the driver's compartment scored a final bar:
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... And the dining room was lit:
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Now even include baseboards go there and I can start to build the furniture.

Besides the new roof hatches and various stuff for the camp came Ingas:
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Thomas

Next we went to the renovation of the little ones.
The inner boxes, below the beds I've developed to make it easier to work on technique can.
Driver's side with the Truma heater and the fuse box:
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Incl. removing the old carpet and its (perceived) 1,000,000 parentheses:
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The passenger side where the water heater is, fared no better:
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Just looks cleaner:
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The gas main was already out into the vehicle and provided with a distributor:
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Now That it went to the first line in the kitchen to the stove:
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As the line was laid, was also carried out directly, a leak test and a test:
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Since the stove so must be connected with a fixed gas line, the kitchen is also fully casually wandered into place. Observe all water connections to the sink (cold / hot water) were connected with:
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Sorry, there was a negative surprise in the bunk bedroom. The ceiling panel had ugly old moisture damage, which is why I wanted to renew the inner cover. During disassembly, however, I realized that's still dripping wet the entire ceiling. The little one is now already for months in a dry hall - for that to dry by now, I'm completely open the ceiling:
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Also on the roof was open:
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The aluminum plate was removed for happiness in one piece, so it can also be used after drying
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Next, the motor only once sealed in the hull and the transmission is in the full. For oils and seals have arrived at it:
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40l oil and brake fluid - I think I need a separate oil source  D:oH! :D

Thomas

The front area is super dried out, so could a new headliner white plastic back inside. The red is just a protective film  ;)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinszhimmel10.jpg&hash=8df969963a18caefc064ebfd1f7393653b68ebec)

Since the Winni's only half the seating is available and nothing suitable is raise, I've even made it:

Starting material:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinsitzbank01.jpg&hash=f0d6e128421576bb1d8f145b3f00e6c65ce61f09)

beginning:
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body:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinsitzbank2.jpg&hash=367cfbe72ce1a9d439776b4fea5087fc2ddb4dad)

The dimensions I have adapted to the existing seat. However changed so inconspicuous that the lower flap also can receive our seating Outdoor Furniture.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinsitzbank3.jpg&hash=39087391df8ca829b60150d83287054889a550cf)

Externally, it looks even more sad:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinhalle25.11.1.jpg&hash=9a2819b9eff9496f970c09d0908d2b9ea1868bfd)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinhalle25.11.2.jpg&hash=35843c617bbe0d78afe8052dc5fac2c37dfc4c3c)

Thomas

Looking good. What I wouldn't give for a garage big enough to get mine in!

Thank you  :)ThmbUp
I can understand that, because I'm just a guest in this shop  :-[ . This is part of the happiness a very good friend who is not currently requires the space. The disadvantage is that the shop is 40mins away - but I can live ... better than to make the renovation on the road, because in my shop the Winni does not fit  $@!#@!

Thomas

You might want to re-evaluate the LP manifold / distribution block inside the cabin.  Leaks can develop on any joint, and could be deadly inside the cabin.  Keep up the good work!

Since I have the highest respect for propane, I do not trust the old lines and renew all. Because as the material or saving money also in no. I use a Emerto system and secure all cables with additional brackets, so that neither this loosening can still get loosen.
Even if it is a German Wikipedia page, the pictures tell even from many things:
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Schneidring_fest.jpg&imgrefurl=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneidringverschraubung&h=768&w=1024&tbnid=ElVtQjFFt4b41M:&zoom=1&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&usg=__uI5dpWTynVdSnyDEGB8c76YRuTg=&docid=dDWHOQb0O7LPSM&sa=X&ei=RbN2VJPXBMa5ON-CgcAJ&ved=0CEMQ9QEwBQ&dur=714 (http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Schneidring_fest.jpg&imgrefurl=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneidringverschraubung&h=768&w=1024&tbnid=ElVtQjFFt4b41M:&zoom=1&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&usg=__uI5dpWTynVdSnyDEGB8c76YRuTg=&docid=dDWHOQb0O7LPSM&sa=X&ei=RbN2VJPXBMa5ON-CgcAJ&ved=0CEMQ9QEwBQ&dur=714)

Thomas

Quote from: Rickf1985 on November 26, 2014, 10:55 AM
Looking good. What I wouldn't give for a garage big enough to get mine in!

I agree. What a bonus having an inside area that large to work in.

As for your LP manifold, it looks (from your photo) to be at least equal to - if not superior to - most appliance connections I have seen - inside or outside of the cabin.
I would suspect that regulations in your country require a propane detector.
If not, based on your previous posts I would expect you do have one.
Please continue with the photos. :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

I notice those fittings are for fluid couplers but make no mention of gas. I suppose the pressure is no issue but what about gas permeability? Or the possibility of gas escaping through the material of the fitting. Gas and liquid are two totally different properties. Personally I think it would work but I would check to be sure.

@TerryH:
A detector is not mandatory in Germany - but I will later install 3 pieces along the main lines / branches. Here in Germany the gas lines are extremely picky and thoroughly investigated by an engineer, tested and approved for 2 years. after this period, the acceptance procedure starts from the beginning  D:oH! $@!#@! .

@ Rick1985:
Yes, you're absolutely right  :)ThmbUp , the website shown by link, describes the liquid line. The system is also explicitly for propane lines and is based on the same kind of compounds. Unfortunately, I have found for the propane lines not correct side and had to select them  :-[ .

Thomas

Under the vehicle it went. Here I renewed the seal of the engine oil pan.
Insight into a V8 crankshaft housing:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinmotoroelwanne.jpg&hash=82648634b5817595eef02f7d0f94211b8aa3a18a)

Also, the transmission oil pan fared no better and their seal and the oil filter were replaced.
Insight into the 3Gear Transmission:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwingetriebeoelwanne.jpg&hash=58a56f95e5971b0c7167a1ab3ac7c3919b4d2064)

The floor got his second polish and was sealed again:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwin01.12.boden1.jpg&hash=535f326d92240df953b8dfca2526162b5b5d9ec3)

I'm starting to get the surface that was given to:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwin01.12.boden2.jpg&hash=bff187a6c0243a933f16006b44d37c14a042a745)

Thomas

Other small steps that make little slow almost homely.
The corridor is completely dried out and looks great - as parquet flooring  :)clap
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinflur10.jpg&hash=ff441b0cec0e7320c4ad3de8ee510dbc83b7a937)
No, it's not wet ...  N:( ;)

The entrance area is now more inviting:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwineingang.jpg&hash=2a515a1ed562651e3e6209bccde5bd1d0c2cf90d)

Since some work in the interior still present, I have designed carpet remnants for protection:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwineingangschutz.jpg&hash=7f680b1869efba5d7b8053373dc335e4746bfcb0)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinflurschutz.jpg&hash=723171c6f64d79a4a94b35dc70a62f0bbf897193)

The new seat is primed and ready relation with the decor, wandered into place:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwineckbank10.jpg&hash=cc0677a1eee5d36e73fdb1f08d8352cbecd5cd4a)

The living room also went with the whitening continues:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinwzrechts.jpg&hash=3c30e5c7848387b47c048458154cf246d7d39cc2)

Thomas

Wow!  It is coming together nicely.  Rick

 D:oH! Holy Cow! That's really coming along fantastic. Looks great. Nice job. Well done. :)ThmbUp

Thanks guys  :)

Thomas

The back panel of the new seat was not in vain designed as it is. The cavity is then filled / the Work has begun.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinrueckplatte1.jpg&hash=7f5738c7c211242b823f825fc97d9d90e1ac83dd)

Thomas

Let the Beat Goes On :)
The rear panel is put back in place. Now only missing the skirt.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinboxen1.jpg&hash=6111ce76e8a9999fa8130a4f7c0a1346e5f3ffa3)

Inside - unfortunately without wiring  W%

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinboxen2.jpg&hash=fb779212c9d62d3e22e7999474deffba41703650)

Thomas

You know the old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Well I think that's just been proven wrong. Boys we've just seen how to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Schmitti  that is fine work your doing. I'd love to see the expression of the face of the first person to sit in that seat.>GRIN<

I'm gonna try, I do not forget it and take a picture of it  :laugh: .
And I really did not intend to destroy someone's "kidney stones" N:( . My goal is rather to generate a clean sound - because let's face it, the existing music system from 1976 has become something of date  ;) .

Thomas

Very cool!  I will be building a subwoofer box to fill the gap between my fresh water tank and the cockpit... all hidden under the sofa bed.  Built in cabinet.

That is sooooo cool! :)

That is sooooo cool! :)

The propane lines have received their support.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwingashalter.jpg&hash=04308b8bd9b78cf9f5433e5dfeae8b84976474d0)

The baseboards also drag a slow and rob me with your umpteen different mitres the nerve  $@!#@!
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinfussleisten1.jpg&hash=a32123bd424d255cd591eb13a96e87699b6be32d)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinfussleisten2.jpg&hash=533308970568dc3fc20ddb37448fce625d0b694c)

Thomas

In keeping with the cold weather we have the 24V Truma heating can take to the 12V power supply ultimately in operation and the dining room has table with homemade found its conclusion - only the pads are still missing.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fesszimmer.jpg&hash=c8483843955e17ccdacff12b15af25bd996fb3b7)

Thomas

Under the dash there is slow order. All unnecessary cables have been removed.
Before:
(We are sorry, but the image can not be uploaded)

After:
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May look at first glance, not much better - but you can see it looked more closely.

The wall covering and the interior is now ready to finish. Both chairs are then fully reinstated and the seat can be summarily convert to a king-size bed.
Left Couch:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwohnzi1.jpg&hash=d0ba287c52003309c01b90ba4e82f3284c48e76f)

Both sides, with the view of the now bright bathroom:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwohnzi2bad.jpg&hash=29c07de050c5aadd4e4c3cff44ea8486d191a337)

Converts to bed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwohnzi3.jpg&hash=b38fcdedbd8d05e0970140b49d2603e83c973716)


Thomas

The last six months, summarized in nearly six Minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVpZkoTw_-U&feature=youtu.be

Thomas

great job looks amazing

Thank you joev   :)

Welcome to the new year, dear reader.

The last effort in the last year, I'm still owe you.
Since new roof hatches are fitted, the Dachau sections for the roof hatches from the US weight were changed to German level.
Original:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachausschnitt1.jpg&hash=85ce99929289ebd48843cb9c73270f42f641c129)

New:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachausschnitt2.jpg&hash=6428f1a7167ebfd166cf4006ecc3767324cbcf9c)

At the same time, my girlfriend made a rough interior cleaning:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Ferstputz.jpg&hash=0099abc0ecc8c781a27fa3b5fc9e11c88c0b0516)

Thomas

Now the renovations begin on the roof. For this I have found the safe side supports under the roof openings:

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachst%25C3%25BCtzen.jpg&hash=9a931e808ec908784ef240f711abb51b11c922f9)

Then the inner side have four-screws can be removed (to find a suitable bit of this is in Germany not been easy):
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachschraube.jpg&hash=31638e5274919955f5623adf0d7bebd6e93f1f76)
The color that contained therein additionally makes it any easier  $@!#@!

Then begins the real, miserable work. Sealant without end, the fights tenaciously:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach1.jpg&hash=2910fdcb66c7adf9a547f0443d59cbc741a82285)
The wooden wedges, it is the gentlest for the thin aluminum on the roof.

Viscous sealant without end:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach2.jpg&hash=671b8986be9dff276e3c794c311fedf41ebe33ff)


Little by little it going:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach3.jpg&hash=9d712782c89601ccd85b70a6394979d8242e58c6)

Bar to bar .... and everything must be from:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach4.jpg&hash=32c16b84f86fd43f4a7b8127b6c5df9b56142143)

Thomas

Ain't this a fine mess you got us into Ollie.

Excuse me - my english just leave me  $@!#@! .... how do you mean with Olli?

Thomas

Ollie was one of the team of comedians, Laurel and Hardie from the thirties and forties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_and_Hardy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_and_Hardy)

http://www.stanlaurelandoliverhardy.com/nicemess.htm

I was watching you curl up you trim which is hard to come by. One of our expressions is " Seemed like a good idea at the time."
One guy in a comedy team use to get his partner in trouble all the time and the one guy would say to the other guy " Ain't this a fine mess you got us into Ollie"

Ah, OK, now I understand it  :) :)ThmbUp
It is the old famous saying of "Dick & Doof" (German Film Title of Stan & Olli is loosely translated "Fat and Stupid")  :D

Thomas

 :)rotflmao Well I don't know if I'd go that far :laugh: But keep up the good work. I'm really enjoying this thread. It's been said many times your doing a fantastic job.

Ive been gone for a while. Wow Thomas great work. :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp.
You are doing a job that most of us never could imagine.
love the floors and the new seating area.  Its coming along real nice.. wont be long now.. :laugh: :laugh:
Vic.

I thank you for your praise and I am glad that you like my work.
I've never been a guy who makes "half done" - either I do this in my eyes right - or I'll have it.

Thomas

With a makeshift scaffolding to working height, it is easier to work:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach5.jpg&hash=4658a2a296bb4048e9df6ee44b2232d53c209681)

Hard work require hard means. With a soldering flame and two wooden wedges the bars go quite well and expeditiously from:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach6.jpg&hash=49d392ae8a33231e5f8df7271c76d10ac9ebb214)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach7.jpg&hash=c5d30925775d0b218a7f3f8d6c570b14d97c5725)

The first tentative insights:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach8.jpg&hash=786e10fb6a5e647198ed0aead6f3a7b8bd1b2cfc)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach9.jpg&hash=66206b0f89d1a1d8dceb7200648e39cd7ba0563a)
... Does not really tingly and does not bode good  $@!#@!

Accordingly, the aluminum sheet must down to inspect the full damage. But I have solved the aluminum plate on the surface and could prefer something:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach10.jpg&hash=b67ca31a1fb1094813539d5569af8e51894595de)

Revealed roof:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach12.jpg&hash=1ac21ddd3b05e7a78b19573353f18bf2f00341f9)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach11.jpg&hash=c1a8b301ab000db2b0ff3c5839be50b22f3041d4)

Integrated wiring harness:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach13.jpg&hash=8757a53ed2e601bdbdade70288983c8369548471)

Since I can not lift the sheet safely down alone, I have supported with a few plates. Thus, at least the air circulate a little and do their work during drying and airing:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach14.jpg&hash=4b260fc7331cdf3ae3552ed9dc084df7dd164732)

Thomas

After the first shock and an evening of reflection, was the solution to the problem "how to continue with the roof" pretty close.
First, the aluminum sheet was flying times from the roof:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach15.jpg&hash=c08d0f2c84241ac21adde1375392b58b9a829ce6)

After that, it was a bit lighter:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach16.jpg&hash=117d232ec1283b3ee167988a5f00dfe5863a1f74)
This makes it easy to dispose of.

Thereafter, the entire roof was freed from the loose fiber boards and roughly cleaned:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach17.jpg&hash=8ea2b16498cebb5ec6bc6f533161abea9a3687a1)

Even the loose insulation boards went directly the same way, the cable is exposed and the rotten wood removed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach18.jpg&hash=263175f7c0c814552ba530615a79e19b59d99907)

The whole is now dry only once in peace. Meanwhile, my thought up roof concept is converted into a list of materials and accordingly triggered an order.

Thomas

Thomas at this point , Check all the wiring, Replace any that are needed, And install any that you have future plan for additions , Speakers, lights, etc . If it were me since you have progressedthis far i would make the roof with a slight dome shape and use 1 piece rubber for the roof .  There are posts of both procedures at this site . Nice Work Frank  :)ThmbUp

Thank you Frank  :)ThmbUp
That was exactly my thought when I saw the wiring harness. This is now completely revised and supplemented. While this is an unplanned measure my "schedule" rejects - but I will get there because never again. So: "Now or Never"  The dome shape I will not be able to implement and my plan was from the beginning, about to pull a complete roof made of rubber. The aluminum was me already too stubborn and patched. This had to also facilitates the decision to reject the aluminum completely and dispose of.

Thomas

An effective dome shape of only 1 or 2 in would eleviate any standing water. The only complication is mounting A/C unit . Bending the plywood that slight amt is not a big problem over a 8 ft span ! Cutting the cross pieces may cause some difficulty with out a band saw though ! The interior panel would still be flat Frank

To build a dome as a roof is not difficult in itself. However, I do not really want it. Not only because the A / C unit and roof hatches - the problem I see it as solved. On Winni is everything straight and edged (like cut with a guillotine) ... that I want to keep. Firestone EPDM roofing foil can handle it.
If the Winni is parked in the future, it will be prophylactically placed on pins in order to remain the no large amounts of water on it. Right now he only has to stand while camping. I see now not a major problem.

Nevertheless, Thanks for the great and good tip

Thomas

The beginning of the end ... of 40years old roof has begun. The lateral border is so rotten wood and confident that a partial reconstruction is not worth there.
Therefore, down and away with it:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachabriss1.jpg&hash=c9e788ef7bf5bfd8c391408589d85b7bf2075928)

Putrefaction and wetness is easy to see  $@!#@! :
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachabriss2.jpg&hash=25d53861e31a8a1ba6ce086fa55611f2ecdac1ac)

Very quickly it looked on the floor then accordingly from:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachabriss3.jpg&hash=cfc4fe5282a4817c627c5d1952108021f66039c4)

Part of the new roof can already be seen - the black Firestone EPDM liner is and the bucket with the adhesive is clean and protected under the car  :)ThmbUp :)

Thomas

The complete "cable salad" on the roof has now been checked and if necessary. repaired. Now go back all the interior lights and switches, as well as the front and rear roof lights. Purely prophylactic some cable (12V + 230V) as a replacement yet to be introduced ;) .

I am also surprised it being evil, for example the a cable from 8m, 4x changes color - in America there are no cables from the roll or be the only 1.5m long fabricated? D:oH! W%
<- Joke

As the roof is dried at the same time, the reconstruction can begin :)ThmbUp

Thomas

He , Sounds like someone was useing up scraps of leftover wireing when they built it . It is not a big problem when installing wireing , But can be a major headache when repairing later and you cannot see the beginning and the end at the same time   Good Luck Frank

You are doing very well. It is frightening to see the wood damage, and remember that you walked on it at one time.
Does your country have "Marine Plywood" available? It is a special plywood that is treated to be waterproof and highly rot resistant. It is more expensive, but excellent for roofing. If you ever develop a leak in the future, it will not warp, delaminate, or rot like regular plywood. It is WELL WORTH the added expense!

Like here:
http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/specialty-panels/specialty-sanded/1-2-x-4-x-8-marine-grade-plywood/p-1485662-c-13336.htm

$44.49 per sheet (U.S. $) (39.70 Euros)  1.2192 meter X 2.4384 meter X 12.7 mm  (4 ft X 8 ft X 1/2") 

Be sure to apply tape to all joints on the roof before installing the EPDM Liner. This cushions and protects the liner from rips and tears.

I actually use this:
http://www.menards.com/main/flooring/laminate-flooring/laminate-installation-maintenance/healthier-choice-sound-solution-vapor-bloc-laminate-underlayment-pad-1-8/p-1394525-c-6607.htm
Over the plywood, before I install the rubber roof. It adds extra protection for moisture/vapor control, and pads/protects the rubber roof liner. Glue it to the plywood with spray adhesive before applying the rubber roof.

@ Frank:
Yes, it looks as if several residues were on the roof has been processed. The worst thing in the patched stuff is actually the switch wire colors and as a purple cord begins, red and green will be completed  $@!#@! i??

Lefty:
I do not completely cover with wooden roof. Your tip is great but he goes in a different direction than what I thought up. I cut 45mm wide slats from a 24mm thick glued laminated timber.

https://www.casando.de/holzbauundbaustoffe-plattenwerkstoffe-leimholzplatten-seite-2/ (https://www.casando.de/holzbauundbaustoffe-plattenwerkstoffe-leimholzplatten-seite-2/)
(Just as a sample / example and unfortunately in German)

From this, a framework is laid out on the roof with 24mm PVC foam covered plates before the EPDM sealing membrane comes on to the roof.

http://www.platten-bu.de/PVC-Hartschaum/PVC-Hartschaum-weiss/4-mm/PVC-Hartschaum-weiss-1560-x-3050-x-4-mm::169.html (http://www.platten-bu.de/PVC-Hartschaum/PVC-Hartschaum-weiss/4-mm/PVC-Hartschaum-weiss-1560-x-3050-x-4-mm::169.html)
(Just as a sample / example and unfortunately in German)

I find this forum really great. You get great tips and help, just observe how do other projects and look up some suggestions.

Thomas

Today I have manged to pick up the new "rafters". Now it also explains why I chose the material. On a bar of 24mm thickness I can make it myself (80Kg) centrally, without which it breaks  ;) :)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachsparren.jpg&hash=958d05bb6b5b4f076ab8d55cfc312ec0e58853b6)

Thomas

Since the fuel gauge nothing indicating a defect in the fuel sender was suspected. For the tank under the Winni had to be dismantled. The mounting position of the encoder can be no other alternative. The fastening of the tank itself must have been designed by an engineer - no worker would solve it so bad.
The rusted tank:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Frosttank1.jpg&hash=238a19c207d348041bea9118e143a34e15128e1c)

The encoder when removed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Frosttank2.jpg&hash=545f375ed874d9d70e2e9a5f2ae572041d8d6a3f)
The source of error was not the donors themselves, but the installation position of the float. This is stuck on the outer wall of the tank and could therefore only "empty" view.

Since nothing is installed rusty and the situation permits it just wonderful, I have the tank ado sanded, primed and coated with black stone guard.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Frosttank3.jpg&hash=c9397a3fc68544378c51e9b16b4a1330e8af1438)

While the paint dried, it started with the roof. The rafters get a sealing tape for external connection to aluminum exterior wall:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fsparren10.jpg&hash=457f0cc5e66bef36de6d07289da22ec551387e3e)

Looks in detail like this:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fsparren11.jpg&hash=2517f2b87a48b816955812a9fcf79bf96aef751e)

And over the length, you can imagine it better:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fsparren12.jpg&hash=e1ef7e786ef848f8d246c2a9827037829128302b)
The plate itself is again secured with clamps to the wood.

Thomas

Looks good

Thank you LT-TJ  :)

The lath frame is calibrated, aligned, fitted and screwed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fsparren14.jpg&hash=9d9369d88b480a54b9067e77d0483d0f552634b7)


Also, the first exchange for a roof hatch is ready:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fsparren15.jpg&hash=30d58a8538ea9ded109f0ded9cb0dd1c1991b1a0)

Thomas

I'm sure you already know this.But if you have a roof air conditioner or if you may put one on down the road you may want to beef up the roof framing were it will attache to the roof. I'm sure you have noticed that on all these old girls the roof sags where the roof air conditioner mounts because over time that's the week spot on the roof.

Yes, I even have noticed when buying Winni`s, the sagging roof in this area. It is hardly surprising, since the incorporated wood has no bearing on the support of the roof.
Here's a relief / or hopefully an improvement is incorporated.

Thomas

Good man. See I knew you new that. D:oH!

 ;) :)

Thomas

looks nice, have you got any slope from the middle to the sides ?


You won't need an Air-conditioner in Germany for most times of the year. Maybe two or three weeks, it's never that hot :P

Yes, currently the roof depends slightly visible. However, it is not yet fully braced - but compared to the old roof, it is almost straight  ;) :)

How often do I get the A / C unit need to be seen, because the black roof will attract the sun already  Hm?

Thomas

exterior color makes little to no difference how the temperature is inside. Where are you in Germany ? I was from Bavaria and we had little to no summer for the last 10 years.

You know that most new RVs are black or Dark colored ? Reflection is much more important ! Keep it shiny.

Windows are the main point of heat entry. Get some shade over the windows is much more efficient then painting the whole thing in white.

I beg to differ exodus. We have a shiney black coach and its gets hot as hell parked in the sun. We always try to camp where we have only morning sun so its shaded before noon and after. Even with an aluminum roof. The rooftop can barely keep up on the hottest days if we dont have shade.
I think the reason the newer ones can get away with it because of better, higher efficiency insulation these old girls dont have.
Shine has little to do with the heat absorbsion. A dirty white car will always be cooler than the shiniest black car. Shine may reflect the light but the color is what absorbs the thermal energy.

I don't tell you it makes no difference, white is better then black. But if you would cover you windows from the sun the effect would be much bigger.

if you would have a shiney white one you would be also cooked.


The sun is producing a lot of energy in different wavelength and our Eye is only able to see a very small spectrum of it. Most of the heat comes from infrared radiation, and for infrared is the color of the coach principle not a big concern. You need something which is reflection the infrared, and this is the shine.


Zink or Silver are very good infrared reflectors. Newer coaches are painted in metallic paints, which reflect far more infrared then any uni lack every before.

Whatever. What color now receives more or less sun, I almost does not matter. I have to come to terms with the material, what I can get. I had a choice between the matt black or light gray rubber. I have now times chose the matte black - because to me the quality of the material was more important and therefore has a higher priority. With the light gray rubber sheet I would have to compromise and trade-offs that I would not.
Really hot it is here in the area of Mainz (Germany means) a maximum of 2-3 weeks a year. However, should the Winni yes standing around not only here on the doorstep. So I would like to transverse drive through Germany or sometimes to Italy or Spain to the beach. We will just have to see how warm it is inside.

In the future there will be less important, since I still intended to do with what the roof surface. Currently there is not yet ripe or important because I am plagued by other problems. Our laws have been changed :'( . Previously you could with special marks on lead or test drive a car - whether or not Streatlegal ... in 6 weeks, there are not any more  $@!#@! . This means in plain text, I have to be ready in 6 weeks to be able to make simple a decrease in traffic Agency (TÃœV). If I can not do it, it gets weird and complicated.

Thomas

Many small sites have been processed on weekends.
Two new (shared) tank tapes I made - so the tank can back to the car
Three wheel arches and painted rust from - because the new wheels can then upon receipt ran again
After that, I have dedicated myself to the problem of old paint. Since I now have the Winni, I racking my brain as I can abrade the sheet. The "mountains" are not an issue - the "valleys" are only 45mm wide and I can not find a machine that - so the approximately 40 square meters with a sanding block to sand by hand  $@!#@!

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschleifklotz.jpg&hash=877615b076d694c6de0e8fb8f1c84c8167c6921e)

Thomas

The tank has migrated to the new tank straps back under the car and connected ready:(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Ftankfertig.jpg&hash=6a97fd68b82bed5a9dd3006d485866773444b8b7)

On the roof, it was with the last stiffeners and Go further:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach30.jpg&hash=bd9f0e4763921abaf094731bbf76c208b53c33a8)

The insulation is again added:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach31.jpg&hash=020261d6f4adeef0ecedfeb0b57e0c81581cbf08)

Then the roof panels come from 4mm plastic on it:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach32.jpg&hash=2dfdaae452d78af1da51731998c36721fab7e935)

Then looks at the full as follows:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach33.jpg&hash=6f1c9f7ba95eb3fb7702c560964acb85099d6fe5)

For the new EPDM liner does not rub against the screw and the shocks are first for yourself sealing, everything is taped with a Alutape:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach34.jpg&hash=685a2470cc624d1a6ad7b9898ae7aeac7fa70ee7)

Of course, beyond the outer corner:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach35.jpg&hash=56e78fa30861aa5f4599708d241932aa73dbfe6a)

The new tires for the rear axle are also already arrived:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fneuereifenha.jpg&hash=91a39310f94879f4135495ddb69a31c6d74525cc)

Thomas

The edges of the side walls are lined with a plastic bracket. This is already glued with a sealant:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach36.jpg&hash=f5a2d25f9ec7ff88c95971baccadb87048421a7a)
The angle was also glued to the Alutape.

Now the EPDM liner comes on to the roof. This was straightened out and repulsed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach37.jpg&hash=28ad5367362b618f607d8f02dc8fc33518e99aa0)

The first half of the roof coated with the adhesive:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach38.jpg&hash=ca716900a58d6991e42728849fa91b98ec22e19b)

Also, the film itself:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach39.jpg&hash=a361d669cf05cdcb0876aeac6b53290fb1f97f76)

Repulse iron out wrinkles and repeat the procedure with the rear half. Unfortunately, I have a photograph Forgot here.

Laterally, the film is also glued and riveted flat material with an aluminum:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach40.jpg&hash=d0ffac6f96ff39d655b050bc905aaac71f324f69)

Thomas

Good job!  Excellent progress!

WOW!

Thank you for your feedback positive  :)

Thomas

That is a lot of work in a short time! I am impressed.

you have done something here that most of us wish we could accomplish in a life time. cheers to you my friend. :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)
thank you for publishing it all for the world to see... bravo. Schmitti.

@ Rick1985:
I now work at the Winni in the seventh month - but as I said, I must in March to our technical inspection ... therefore it must be done quickly and I will indeed on vacation.

@ Cosmic:
Who wants to implement the work that creates well. The will and some skill course help immensely, the back a little and functioning piece of jewelry is from an old camper.

I find this forum great  :)ThmbUp . Feedback, advice, assistance and expertise to help everyone. I was also already helped directly and I picked a lot of other - why should I publish my work then not ... it's just fair to all ;) :) .

Today we went a bit further. The roof is now completely enclosed laterally and dried. Unfortunately, it has thrown a few unsightly bubbles - but what should have no impact tightness ... and that's the most important thing to me:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdach45.jpg&hash=e18cbe473955c0c68e8b5bdbf1c1a5433ab394ed)

The new pads have been received and tentatively inserted times.
One of the two Couch:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fpolster2.jpg&hash=ab165d54a2c1a72ac23293300b380d3f0311a215)

In the dining room:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fpolster1.jpg&hash=222ae93b6d09db9cce9b66e0e66b80332991c458)

Also, the bed - including a short practice test.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fpolster3.jpg&hash=430a315683ff85615167a786441ecd6ada86ee12)

Thomas

The new tires are mounted directly times.
The tires on the rear axle, which also require grip for wet meadow:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fneureifen2.jpg&hash=293be62c237b2a98ba5c79d7a13ad6ca68d80a2f)

... And what to keep for the front axle track:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fneureifen3.jpg&hash=7c6b6b7d109561450c8c05c1143dab160c1de8e7)

When fitting the hubcaps, I unfortunately have to find the missing me 10 retaining clips. If anyone has or knows what a shopping resource, he can feel free to contact me.
Descriptive Images:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fradkappe1.jpg&hash=96235ce49d127bd16886dda41bd56d41ff830100)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fradkappe2.jpg&hash=c3241cf4f6b52f5ee7cac2e6fb12771b8b77e459)

Because these are mounted on the passenger side of the wheels, I could dismantle the last wheels on the rear axle / driver side.
What I had to discover it? Inconspicuously lost his inner wheel and the outer air, decrepit wheel was on:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Faltreifen1.jpg&hash=7c98157058fd25f2926f10c36604db9b8b6bc8ad)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Faltreifen2.jpg&hash=1f5a6f1fe018c38a1c240ac6bd48e65393691e50)

Horror !!

But there was also a delight. On the soles own standing, the Winni looks much better now from:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fneureifen4.jpg&hash=f1f604f8d733ffd411eae381175c40fa5e858d58)

Thomas

A new Video is Online  :) ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrEQIovdIno&feature=youtu.be

Thomas

The miserable grinding of the outer sheet metal dress has begun. But to the eye it was before the first color accents:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack1.jpg&hash=fd807b7be1a8de35dd02040d48676f621f841cb5)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack2.jpg&hash=a3bf8642de1fa8462c17cc3af0b99d41637969d4)

Thomas

Oh man, I love sandpaper and work with it  W% :-[ $@!#@!

Thomas

Heed the advice from someone whose lungs have paid the price, Where a very good dust mask and a quality respirator when painting.

Yes, thanks for the advice  :)ThmbUp - a good fine dust respirator is with me even when performing such duty :)

Thomas

The new "center console" is prepared in the home workshop before the Winni:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fmittelkonsole.jpg&hash=cae8cfbfea515c91fca84885f7b00d381c0d1d3d)


The outer shell is now being intensively and prepared for paint.
First, the old sealant is grossly out:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fblech1.jpg&hash=969f2eece1cb76fe52fe46feb8ff124bffd88b87)

Thereafter, the joint is reworked thoroughly with a wire bust essay:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fblech2.jpg&hash=9a8322d474bab717c29b9b926cfb68204b5fbcb3)

Meanwhile, my Girlfriend goes ever on the rear surface:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fblech3.jpg&hash=45afac6faa55be71b8dd3bc213ade202424493b4)

The result can be seen already:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fblech4.jpg&hash=772e1897c897ec8d42fb5996058dcc7abd6ab2d4)

Thomas

Hard messy work. Your girl friend will have stong arms when its all done.
Should look great with a new coat of paint. Please tell me your going to keep the paint original??

Yes, it has been noted that this is a physically demanding work :laugh: ;) :)

The Winni has already been repainted. Exactly this coating layer must come down in order to apply the new paint can. The new color choice will have absolutely nothing more original - the upper part is light gray and the lower part of Orange.

Thomas

oh know.. hay its your rig, and all your hard work. I am all about the original look. each to there own.. I was hopping you would make it look like the day it came from the factory.
shoot you wouldn't be the first guy to paint a Cadillac pink... if you know what I mean...

@cosmic:
I can understand you and a pink Cadillac would be a no-go for me.
However, I would like to say to my "defense" following. As much as the edgy design and overall appearance also pleases me - neither the original colors, even the Flying W's my thing. I see it as my home. Also this I would like to have, as I like it. What's more, I have kept the Winni before the scrap. He remains at least get and here in Germany I know but my only ONE. The new design is now but not completely "out of Winnebago". It is similar to how the "Retro Brave". So it is here a kind of mixture of old and new.

With difficulty the squirrel - or as in our case: The grinding old paint is progressing. The front is now complete and the side to 50% complete sanded:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fblech5.jpg&hash=c3c365a80ac6a35a9a76a448413915df55dd4be1)

Thomas

 :)rotflmao You keep up the good work Mate. You guys are doing a fine job. Don't listen to those Crazy Canuck's there brain frozen right now. Last I herd it was -36 C there. They never know what there talking about. :laugh:

Quote from: LJ-TJ on February 21, 2015, 01:04 PM
:)rotflmao You keep up the good work Mate. You guys are doing a fine job. Don't listen to those Crazy Canuck's there brain frozen right now. Last I herd it was -36 C there. They never know what there talking about. :laugh:

HaHa!  Spoken like a resident of the eastern country of Ontario.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Here on the southwest coast of Canada it is 12C - 53F. Daffodils and Cherry Blossoms blooming.
Coats, jackets, sweaters not required. Quick question - what is a "snow shovel"?  i?? i?? :)rotflmao :)rotflmao
Terry

Stop down here in NJ and I will introduce you to one, Abruptly! $@!#@! :)rotflmao

The cold weather you shall like to keep, including the snow with you  :P :D . Here in the middle of Germany are just around 0 ° C (32 ° F) and that is cold enough W% ... I'm more of a summer type  :laugh: :)clap

Thomas

Looking good Thomas, I recently went thru all of that preparation , It took me a month to repaint useing spray cans . As i was working outside wile living in the R/V I could not use the professional methods for spraying. Turned out ok The repaint is in the projects section here . I also hate the Flying W And the stripes along with the 60,s colors . I am still planning  something along the lines of TJ-LJ  Old rig The more modern type of layout .  Its a blank slate at present ! Frank

Hi Frank,
Thank you for your praise.
I just looked at your Mini Winni -'ve also done a good job  :)ThmbUp

Thomas

Variety of human needs. Only stupid grinding I can not and I settled in between other.
The new center console has been assembled, connected and temporarily provided with an old radio:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fmittelkonsole5.jpg&hash=34ae1f01d9e83b3eacda73543dddfff5d8967c9d)

The next site was the battery compartment. Here almost no function of the drawer was given and mounts not even available for Akku's. Also here is the passage with open flaps simply too tight to work.
situation:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fakkufach1.jpg&hash=6254b8991fc4d3bdf875fb6a52457a2150b44576)

The slide was cleaned and re-greased. Then I got M10 threaded rods welded:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fakkufach2.jpg&hash=e37fbda2894cc33cbf5aae78df47c67861af4483)

Thereafter, rust removal and protected with zinc spray against further rust. Akku's pure and rewired. Two flat bars with matching bore and with anti-slip mats provided (which also serve as protective padding) were prepared and screwed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fakkufach3.jpg&hash=4a274dc3d0c84cdf4ea17e92778e96a90cd97e8c)

Thomas

Two weeks loops and in between there was no end in sight  W% . The agony is finally over. 47m² corrugated metal / old varnish are now smoothed and prepared for the new paint as much as possible.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschliff1.jpg&hash=0d4fef6a3087fe92747da5cf29ca3a96f9f7d2ae)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschliff2.jpg&hash=610d1fa2539026c21cc0455499f3bb626ab37b79)

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Thomas

 :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao Man your a brute for punishment. Well done. D:oH!

I'm glad if I could brighten your day - I am enjoying by yourself because that's done this crappy work  W% :D

Thomas

As i stated in my projects This  repainting/body repair is very labor intensive (makes for good sleeping though) I had compressed  air and air sanders wich helped a lot But it is still a very large area That requires a lot of up and down the ladder So if you plan on doing yours get as many volenteers as possible .  :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao Frank

Well I would think the hard work is not quite over yet.. I think taping that big boat is going to be a job on its own..
Looks good. Almost there Schmitti... A little trick is to wet the floors before painting. This will keep the dust from flying back up and getting in the paint.. unless you have paint booth it will fit in.  this is how we have always done it... sure beats wet sanding after you paint it.

I used an electric random orbital sander to help. That was actually quite good. He is above even be seen in an image. He stands in front, on the "hood". Nevertheless, it is and remains the most horrible work with any vehicle that just is not fun $@!#@! .

The trick with the wet floor I know. So I painted already various rally cars in my workshop and achieved good results. Here in this workshop I am lucky to be able to turn on a suction when painting ;) :) .

Thomas

For the later installation of an approved in Germany trailer hitch, the bumper was cut before the paint before.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fanhaengerkupplung1.jpg&hash=82e34f186be3ae7e561cca8a332a77fb02df1ee7)

The sealing work has now begun. The bodywork sealant must be ran before the new paint. They can be painted over within five days.
Several meters of joint / window joints are to be replaced here. The old lady will hopefully thank me.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdichtung.jpg&hash=8dc0ff87c8fb111a422751918686cfa0c6349029)

Thomas

Nice work on the calking schmitti.. looks professional.. I hate that shoot.. gets all over the place...
you would think that my hand eye would be good from all the welding. hell no.  that calking is an art of its own...
Nice work :)ThmbUp

Thank You  :) .
However, you'd have to really have a knack for it. I like to compare it with the welding. As a qualified welding specialist, I can allow such a judgment. Again, it's all about smooth forward and beautiful bead appearance. In principle, therefore, nothing but your hand on the welding machine  ;) :D .

Thomas

After the entire Winni received its seals, it came to taping:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fabkleben1.jpg&hash=4701b842a604cf6c95976dc0e1ab79af7e16a52e)

All-round course:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fabkleben2.jpg&hash=8b49c41132b0628d8d3cfd50291ca9f2abb974f4)

Then we went to the first coat with a primer go:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fprimer1.jpg&hash=eface244e8d2038889ccab1c0a8bb109498758ad)


Wanted in and of itself "only just" make the front to see what it looks like - got it but then completely pretreated thus:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fprimer2.jpg&hash=d76d6aa39c0de6c29a01f3d0d644db33fc9e86d5)

Thomas

Looking good!!

Thank You  :)

Thomas

After several months, a new carburetor has arrived at 15 o'clock. Curious, as we were, we went again to Winni. At 18h, the new Edelbrock Thunder 650CFM was adapted and tentatively mounted:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2FEdelbrock.jpg&hash=ee83c1ea65f8a025902af993df66e1ae8a680738)

Clearly, then, a short test run was needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8zSUuE7WUE&feature=youtu.be

Thomas

Next go outside of the body. The entire surface is removed using a pad:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack3.jpg&hash=3997b67719c07b489eab950e82003465b3a00cdd)

After that the contour for the second color Mask:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack4.jpg&hash=20776950308285911fc55b13e24936486495d8d0)

A few newspapers as "splash guard" to:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack5.jpg&hash=25ed07331d54dc2e81efe628651839a02a10fb16)

Then clean the surfaces with a dilute and apply paint:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack6.jpg&hash=1458d0f3ea01c35c9ece75cb4b8f0afcab29f4b0)

After a good-natured drying time, the tape will be removed immediately. So they can not dry with.
Result:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack8.jpg&hash=f3b527052774777bf68d247c534b5fed94d76b47)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack9.jpg&hash=b9fd3ef438d96e67f2602debfddf3e4a32aff0ea)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Flack10.jpg&hash=7e79489c7f1f9d4f1e2d11cb74b8cba9820a38ae)
... The transformation has begun  :)

Thomas

That has the tough painting the side against the wall. Looking good and amazed at how fast things are moving along.

Holy Cow! That's FANTASTIC. WOW! AMAZING. I can't believe the work you've done in such a short period of time. Well done mate. :)ThmbUp

Outstanding!! Paint looks good. What's next?

Thank you for your encouragement  :) .

I gave myself the last 5 days of vacation to get out as quickly. As already mentioned in an earlier post, I have to imagine the Winni, this month at our Automotive Authority :-[ . Accordingly, all work is ongoing at full speed to get everything ready and ready for testing .

What is next? There is still a lot on my todo list.
1) The second color (the bumper laterally and below)
2) Hydro Boost seal
3) Brakes need to be made passable
4) The radiator for the interior heater is leaking - has now been found to be tested with the carburetor
5) two gas lines for the refrigerator and the water heater must still pure
6) a water pump must still be installed and then rinsed all water tanks be
7) the instrument panel has yet to be completed clamped

This must now all be done yet for the exam. If I (the Winni) was then passed, it goes on quite comfortably. The whole roof systems have yet to be assembled, the upholstery covered and even tens of various other small items.

Thomas

The transformation is now over and done with. A little earlier gone home from work and that's the result:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Forange1.jpg&hash=2b33ffd725860e97fbe0f9cd33c76388e6e4e900)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Forange2.jpg&hash=0b3288f7383211021e5e9949933424dc2223d999)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Forange3.jpg&hash=00870dfa48844cea4f0966be4683426bb451988c)

Thomas

Now that's what I call a transformation. Defiantly colorful.  ???

If already noticed in Germany, then right ... :D :laugh:

Thomas

 :D It' defiantly cool. I like it. Like I've said many times over the project. Your doing a great job.

Thank you for your approving words :)ThmbUp

Thomas

Looks great! Like the colors. You're doing an excellent job!

Looking like the 2015 brave more and more all the time great job

It looks very nice Thomas! You have done an astounding job on restoring it. I wish you Good Luck on passing your required inspections, I am sure you will do well.

Thank you all.
Fortunately for the investigation I can use. The German hosts are very meticulous and accurate - especially if it is a US vehicle that already 20years has not been studied  $@!#@!

Thomas

After work and raced again quickly to the little ones and the heater core disassembled to see what is going on with the.
A crack in a copper sheet:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheizungskuehler1.jpg&hash=10d157c55a6d75dfa3644bf73a7e4b88e62cde50)

Little things can have great causes - but can also be quickly resolved:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheizungskuehler2.jpg&hash=d6bead58ada187cdeefd67a3b70aa8282fdd331d)

Thomas

The entire weekend was spent in and around the Winni. Countless little things were done.
For example, the roof vents were installed from the water supply. These were glued to the roof and is additionally provided with a sleeve:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachentlueftung1.jpg&hash=e0b16585a8b144bc192162d9873ccf07ede9872a)

It has also been moved to the vent of the refrigerator:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachentlueftung2.jpg&hash=0ae54094a1c92384b183136f26f576f480610eff)

Then at the front edge of the roof of the consoles position lights were bolted and sealed:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachleuchten1.jpg&hash=2a4fdf24a9796acdafa7ec5775c925f8a0e85902)

Also, of course, back:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheckleuchten1.jpg&hash=a7230f6cead71989e724c835ba9f62568aa083e5)
So the electrician can do to work now  :)

The lack of gas lines to the fridge and water heater have now been installed as well. According to an official test gas is here now nothing in the way.

Since the Winni yes has tens of castles and, unfortunately, are all provided with a respective key keyring is quite extensive. Here of course I had to remedy - is after my profession. Therefore, I removed all the locks and fitted with an equal closing lock system - so I may in the future include all exterior doors with a key:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fschloesser.jpg&hash=d7a0b6d280a24b9d804ac7d5635052cd2a5bab0c)

Outwardly it was completed up to the mirror again and completely eliminated from the inside - is after all no more construction site. Since Petra was also there, she took the opportunity was right and began with a coarse base cleaning services. Now the Winni is now so because:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fzusammengebaut.jpg&hash=2c4a207e59be5b7b26e8b27d4b0001a5821b8c70)

Thomas

When I wen to the Magic Junkyard, I had my Winnebago keys on me.  There were dozens of vintage RVs there, including at least 6 "eyebrow" Winnies.  I found that my compartment key fit the compartments on nearly all the them! 

@ Oz:
In the US, you can find far and wide everything that has to do with Winnebago W% $@!#@! . Here, in Germany it is an absolute exotic. ;)

I have already difficulties to find these clips (or clamps?)  for the hubcaps (snap-on simulators?). If you ever find that in a junkyard, you can free to send me 10 pieces across the pond. :) :)clap

Thomas

After a short break, we continued today. The TÃœV (German technical inspection) required, front tow hook has found its place. For the purchased eyelet I have "only" just quickly, need to create a console.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fabschlepphaken1.jpg&hash=9a1257aaa1b9d62669ebecc40b7136cb938bc017)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fabschlepphaken2.jpg&hash=ef3406849fba0054fa0af491f3f3a1af3ada0b39)

Then it was the last major construction - the brake system. The Hydro Boost System is back and reinstalled.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fhydroboost5.jpg&hash=eee23b8e2fbcb1db84355dca52a086111e71e3ae)

After the block was reassembled, it came to filling and bleeding the system ... there came again a check - on the rear axle is a wheel cylinder leaking Accordingly, the Winni tomorrow will be raised again and cut the rear axle, to see where it is leaking is.

Thomas

With high pressure it went today with the important work on. First, the brake was disassembled at the rear axle, cleaned, repaired and reassembled again:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fbremseoffen.jpg&hash=8327c17c6073ccdbf53fe4b2da6997db74f8024f)

Then the front, the lighting was put into operation on the roof:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Ffrontleuchtenan.jpg&hash=76b888517b7f9fae479ac77c097df0250c0a065e)

... Back then of course:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheckleuchtenan.jpg&hash=64ee11f18386e052a5ec5447e5c0402bfd29bf52)

Following this work, the dashboard was completely wired, the driver's seat and steering wheel mounted again. Suddenly there was this sight:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fhalleleer.jpg&hash=3b57f19a233d9d33f00f1b7eaaaec59a04c85941)

From. Through the eye of a needle and into the next room to mount the mirrors
Is not that a nice bum :D ?
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fvorderehalle.jpg&hash=7f540bec361552158062eb26391f927b8d64a8b3)

Thomas

 :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao Thanks Mate It's been a blast with you sharing with us.

We can make you a nice orange to match eyebrow decal  with silver Winnebago lettering for that if you want... in the store.. we do custom colors... just PM me! also any other custom lettering in vinyl...

Outstanding!! You did an excellent job!

Thank you all for the encouragement but I stay you will continue to receive - because on the one hand, the work on Winni are still not finished and on the other hand I also read like here  ;) :D .

@tiinytina:
Thank you for your offer :)ThmbUp . I do not know how I run the whole label - which comes at the very end.

Thomas

The day of days has now come. Fetched from the admissions office and a short identifier for five days
The first daylight after 10 months and the new large mirrors:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fvorderhalle.jpg&hash=7704659b4f545029cfaef13755e969acda3da31b)

Then, at times to show off home to Winni his future home port and for me a cup of coffee, because the ride of 22mls was not without problems. The lack of carburettor / ignition timing set out noticeably felt. At idle and under light throttle it still works just fine ... but when accelerating or faster pace, there were several misfires  $@!#@!

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fzuhause.jpg&hash=634e72810d8d945748e5c02e9af4ee572ac4ec8d)

Then the journey continued to a garage, which now continues taking care of the engine.

Thomas

I liked the paint scheme when I first saw it but wasn't sure. Now I see it out side WOW it looks fantastic. Great Job. :)ThmbUp

That is amazing. Well Done sir.

Glad that you like it in the country of birth of Winni what I'm doing here with the "little ones" :) .

However, he makes me just worried. He is currently in a US vehicles (especially Ford Mustang) specialized garage to adjust the engine. Something is wrong with him i?? . On the pulley are 4 marks now we are looking for the right for the ignition. Then probably something with the ignition coil and the capacitor is not OK - still the engine so it runs not as it should. He's kind of weak and has misfires. Unfortunately, there is in Germany no workshop manuals for this particular engine ... so we can unfortunately only swap with parts and manage to try N:( Hm? $@!#@! .

Thomas

Outstanding job, my friend! Well done!

First and foremost make sure the firing order is right for the 440. That may sound like a no brainer but I had a very nice 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 6 pack come into my shop for a tune up. The new owner loved the way it ran and just wanted to tune it up because he had just bought it. The car was super fast but it just did not feel right to me since I had driven race cars all my life. It took a while but I realized the firing order was set for a Ford small block! And it ran pretty good!!! Reset the firing order and the car was scary fast after that. Then spent two days dialing in the three carburetors that someone had modified the linkage on. WOW!
Bottom line, Check everything no matter how dumb it may seem.

Rick

The firing Order is OK  ;)

Thomas

check to make sure that the plug wires are good I have had a bad spark plug that only fired at idle but under load quite working

You have done a beautiful job on your rig! Hope all went well with the inspection. You definatly deserve a break! You are on the internet so do some searching you will figure it out! Bobby

Schaut toll aus ! Sehr Gute Arbeit !  :)clap

Looks Great, Good Job.

Yeah, start with the basics, check you sparkplugs adjust the gaps, clean everything.

The Coils have a history of not working: Here something for troubleshooting:
http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3424.0 (http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3424.0)

Thanks guys for all your encouragement and praise  :)ThmbUp :)

Exodus: That will help me - THANK YOU  :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

The engine is at least roughly set times. Devinitiv for extra settings lacked time. He has no more misfires - but its real strength is still hidden. At least I was able to get hold of the most important appointment. In the (very strict) German technical inspection:
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On the brake tester:
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... And the result:
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Add this event, I took a very sick feeling in the stomach and was expecting a page-long list of defects. However, it turned out differently.
1) propane test -> Pass
2) AU (emission test) -> Pass
3) HU (main investigation - complete vehicle engineering) -> front brake caliper law varies slightly and the wheel is not 100% Free Accessible
                        -> An old seal on the engine lost on this journey tightness - oil loss
                        -> Hand brake effect slightly unequal
                        -> On a bellcrank steering a ball is knocked out

Clearly, with these shortcomings of Winni is failed. But I was expecting much worse and more defects. These deficiencies are fairly easy to fix and I could agree with the examiner an investigation in my workshop - this eliminates the problem with the no longer existing license plates that allowed me 5 days without road test  :D

Thomas

WOW!!  That certainly is a short list!  You will be traveling in no time.  Great work.   :)clap

@Elendan2:
Thanks, but the list of tech. Defects is short but luckily the Winni is still not finished. I still work off a big to-do list for before I can in the first Hollidays  ;) :)

The defect removal has begun. The parking brake is adjusted and the caliper back completely freely. A new handlebar is made and ordered locate.
Thus, the member may soon be replaced:

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Then I have a search on the www. and in this Forum, operated and found out that the mounted spark plugs are totally wrong. The previous owner as well not sure when replacing and I did not know any better.
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After I replaced the 8 candles, the engine has been running much smoother and better depends on the gas. Now the ignition and carburetor can be set again.

Thomas

Great Job Schmitti! Glad the inspector gave you a little bit of a break! But I can understand them being strict, as when we bought our Winnie the previous owner had a new inspection sticker on it and the brakes were so butchered that I lost them both front and back just trying to drive it up on blocks! Totally redone right now , but glad we didn't hurt anyone else or ourselves. Keep up the great work! Bobby :)clap By the way my father was from Munich and my mother from Dusseldorf!

@FastGlassman69:
Are both very nice cities  ;)

Yes, I'm glad the one hand, this is very strictly our authority - that are already security :)ThmbUp . On the other hand, it can be really annoying if you do not pass because of a scratch in a lamp $@!#@! :laugh: D:oH! .

Thomas

Well Schmitti, you must have been able to convince the inspector you were not just playing around when you showed him your craftsmanship! I would imagine this would be the reason he allowed you to do the reinspection at your shop! Bobby :)ThmbUp

Managed, thanks to various and very good help from this forum, I was able to find and raise after finding a suitable replacement part something. Now I have achieved during an investigation, the status "Street Legal"  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Thomas

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Street legal! That is great to hear. The end of a very long road. Do you have to go through this every year?

GREAT WELL DONE  :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap
glad to hear you have passed the inspection a job well done

 :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap :)clap Great Job Thomas, we knew you would succeed! Bobby

I can't stop grinning. CONGRATULATIONS for a job well don't. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. May you see nothing but Blue Sky's and always have a Tailwind.  :)ThmbUp

Thanks to all and thanks again for your help so far and advice. Without you, everything would have been much more difficult  :)ThmbUp :) :)ThmbUp

@Rick1985:
Yes, the examination of the Winni's must be renewed every year. On the back plate you can see the registration district, as long as the test is still valid and also on the red button is the propane testing - but is valid for two years.
Front:
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Back:
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Thomas

Congratulations.  It certainly is a relief to get through a safety check.  When we moved from BC to Ontario, we needed an inspection.  Well, I was out of town when the garage called and said that there were some things wrong but they couldn't get any of the parts so they wouldn't be able fix it and it could not pass.  Of course my wife was almost in tears when she called me.  I don't know why it was so difficult though; after a few minutes of searching on the internet, I had ordered all the parts necessary and the next week the motorhome was back home with new plates.  Rick

Can you imagine doing all of this before the internet? And I was restoring cars back then. You found parts the old fashioned way, yard sales, flea markets, classifieds in newspapers. (remember newspapers?) Thomas would have been out of luck back then.

Great work Thomas..  :)ThmbUp  you have inspired me to paint my rig this summer..

Rick you forgot, There were junkyards everywhere , Till they made them clean up and fence in the unsightly ! A lot just vanished !

True, for some reason I did not put in the obvious. I used to love to wander the yards just to look around, even when I did not need anything in particular. I always came out with something. The U-Pull it yards were the best. I am not a small guy so the yards that had the sales where if you could drag it out it would cost 50 or 100 bucks I was all over them. I also had a buddy who was 350 lbs. of muscle, We would harness him to an old hood and drop a big block Chevy on it and head for the gate. :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao That yard hated to see us two coming! Ahhh, The good old days. probably why I am two steps from a wheelchair due to my back. Hm? W%

I thank you all that you share my joy so  :) :) .

Sure, I am very pleased and relieved that the Winni at least allowed on the road. For a real motor home I have to work a variety of hours of it - but that will not end well.

I have 20years ago started to screw as a hobby in the car and at work - without internet and remember well how it was :)rotflmao .

Cosmic:
I have inspired you to make your Winni new ??? :-) That makes me a little pride and publishing to the same, because I know that you've got it like the original :-[ .

Thomas

An eventful weekend. It started on Saturday in a US car repair shop to adjust the ignition and carburetor.
Using a Bosch tester succeeded quite well so far:
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It was found that the carburetor base gasket leaking slightly and therefore false air is drawn.
Crap thing:
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This creates a clean setting was impossible and the engine was set at about 30% too rich. This allowed us to 14.30 (2.30pm) by the Winni wipe short, purely throw some clothes and various other bits and pieces and go on a camping Oldie meeting. Here we obtained through a friend an invitation. The accessibility of 112mls / 180,3KM went so far is pretty straightforward - if the Navi would not have chased by extreme roads in the Hunsrück us. The steep inclines and hairpin bends mastered the Winni pretty confident - but it dragged on pure gasoline also 38,5l to 100KM.
Arrival at the 5 star campsite in Oberweis at the Prüm, at sunset:
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After that I went to the Winni levelers to align and connect the power. Since this weekend's meant to be a test and also as our reward for the last 10 months, of course, the "cups up" went directly:

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The next morning was perfect to make a special picture for us. The proud owner of the pretty Winni, the new Plate and the Champus, which was emptied following
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We were very nearly the largest motorhome on the spot and our (welcoming) Major had be the smallest team - realized that something must also be noted:
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The home turned out to be quite problematic. I ignored the Navi and I focused on using my mental map, we drove mostly highway. In quite uniform 80-90KM / h (50-55mls / h) "satisfied" with the Winni 35l to 100KM.

Conclusion from the weekend:
In the electric is still the typo, the fridge has apparently given up the ghost, the Winni consumes too much water (ca.7l to 150KM) ... but the two nights were beautiful and very relaxing.
Soon it is so back to the workshop to fix the error and make the expansion completed.

Thomas

I am glad to see you got your first trip in. hat picture of yours next to the Smart and mini camper is funny. I think this is also the first time we have seen you in a picture!!! The loss of water is troublesome if it is in the engine, I really hope it is just a leak somewhere and not a head gasket. You have had enough problems. You have earned the good old fashioned American drink on the table.

Awesome RV.  It's just begging for that final touch... the Winnebago "W", stripe, and model name on the side, and the flying Winnebago shields on the eyebrow and the back.


:)

@Rick:
Thanks  :) , but I'm afraid just the head gasket and have them in the narrow suspicion  $@!#@!

@Oz:
Also you I thank you for the encouragement :) . The lateral labeling of the model name is already used by Tina in work  ;) but with the "flying W", I can not quite make friends W% .

Thomas

If you suspect the head gaskets and if you have someone with an emissions tester just check for hydrocarbons at the radiator cap. They also sell a chemical that you add to a sample of the antifreeze and if there are hydrocarbons in it then it will change color.

Yes, I know the systems in order to check the CO content in the cooling water. However, I will start very soon a pressure test on the cooling circuit. Even the cover of the radiator is sometimes replaced, because that is something suspicious.

Thomas

The new carburetor base for the Edelbrock carburetor with new seals ever arrived. Now the pressure test and possibly a new vote can be done on the engine.

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Thomas

FYI for all members:  We have antifreeze/coolant and cooling system pressure test documents in the Member Area.


:)

@Oz: ... that's class - if I could read them  :-[ $@!#@! - do you think the fact that I am using Goggle by propose here? :)rotflmao $@!#@!
I'm just learning 10 months "on the side" to re-read in English :-[ - since I have the Winni ;)

Thomas

Schmitti your doing just fine.. :)ThmbUp we all speak Winnebago on this site... :)rotflmao :)rotflmao

Schmitti, I noticed that you are using an Edelbrock #1806 carb and the RPC brand carburetor base?  Be aware that in many Edelbrock carburetor installation manuals, they state do not use "open type" carb base adapters when installing to a quadrajet or a thermoquad intake manifold.  Edelbrock wants you to use their 4 hole type carb adapter kit.

Im not sure how this will affect your setup, but just something to be aware of.

Also, Edelbrock states to ensure to no more than 6.5 p.s.i. at the carb fuel inlet. This is important with an edelbrock.  I have regulated my fuel to 5p.s.i. and it runs much better than before

Perhaps these two things will help you pass the testing :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Thanks for the hint. On the fast no other socket was available. If there are problems with the set, I've ever seen a possible source of error. :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Thomas

 ;) Hey Schmitti, I would have never guessed that you didn't speak English.  :laugh: Your doing a fine job. Seems everyone is understanding you just fine. Keep up the good work. As Vic says we all speak Winnebago here. :)ThmbUp

Hmmm, now I have a big problem  :D - the translator of Google has no "Winnebago" in his attitude  :)rotflmao i?? :)rotflmao

Thomas

I must urgently improve my English :) . Today I get here in Germany a manual :)clap .
While it is not for 1976 but it seems to be pretty equal to me. Unfortunately, it is only borrowed, and I am now looking further, if I get a suitable copy for me.

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Thomas

Hey Schmitti, I think you can down load these manuals from the members site right onto you computer. If not if you have E-bay where your at these are the manuals you might want to get.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Dodge+Motor+Home+Chassis+Service+Manual&_sacat=0

For sure you want the Dodge Motor Home Chassis Service Manual Models M-300,M-375,RM-300,RM-350,RM-400
That one covers all the Chassis stuff you'll need to know.

Yes, no matter whether I possess here downloade or as a book - I can not read it (yet) completely :)rotflmao :angel: $@!#@! :-[ . The pictures help very much W% .
Advantage of the book but is also, I can take it in Winni and maybe help me in case of any mishap. Even if I had a workshop, I can provide the data directly in paper form. ;) :)

Thomas

Ok Schmitti in my opinion along with the manual I just suggested here are the others I believe are a must have. Really there worth the money and you won't regret buying them.
Motor Home Chassis Parts Catalog
Models 1969-73 M-300,M-375
            1973-74 RM-300, RM-350,RM-400
            1975      M-300, M-400, M-500
            1976      M-300, M-400, M-500, M-600

Motor Home Chassis Parts Catalog
Models  M-300, M-375
             RM-300, RM-350, RM-400

Dodge Motor Home Chassis
1974-75 Service Manual Supplement
Models RM-300, RM-350, RM-400
            M-300, M-400, M-500
Now I have a 1975 21' Brave and I know nothing about Winnebago's until I found this bunch of hooligans. They helped me get started and once I found these manuals life got a hole lot easier. I think you may be able to down load these off this site if not hunt them down on E-bay you won't be sorry.
                                                             

Hooligan........

I resemble that statement...

That's correct, we do have these manuals in ebook format in the store.  :) :)ThmbUp 

http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?action=store;sa=view;id=209 (http://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/index.php?action=store;sa=view;id=209)

Ordering also includes a free, one year membership upgrade which gives access to our huge library of other manuals as well as other member benefits!

With the E-manuals you should be able to try out different translators to see if there are others that work better. The carburetor spacer will give you a problem in setting the idle mixture for one thing, it will be very touchy to set. And when you are driving down the road you will probably have a big flat spot when you hit the gas, this will be from the open spacer. Try to get the right one from Edelbrock when you can.

After a long break it was again today at the Winni. CO² a test was carried out and had a good result ...
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.... Ever no Co² in the cooling water.

Then we went again with the oscilloscope to the engine in order to adjust it to clean. Since there is still no clear results and after a long search, we found a leak on the intake manifold, where secondary air is drawn in. In plain language - order again new seals, disassemble, inspect, reassemble ...

Positive, there are also reported. After a long search I found a fitting manual in the States. To select stand a used print version or digital CD. I opted for the used book, because I can go there also wonderful use, without first having to fire up a PC.
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Thomas

Gotta have a manual for sure, but you could have gotten our digital one and just printed off the pages you need as you need them.  That way, you don't have to be so careful as with an original manual tying not to get smudges on it, rip pages, etc.  With the digital version, you can also add all kinds of notes you'd want handy without having to write in the limited space on the pages of the hard copy.  Oh, and that hard copy doesn't get you a free, Full membership here with all its benefits like our digital version does.


Just some additional benefits of having a digital version from CWVRV.   :) :)ThmbUp

@Oz ... I'll be later on you ;)

Since I am currently lancer really busy, now my little brother goes to the engine. The leaking intake manifold must down to seal and troubleshooting. We have ever shared removes the unnecessary vacuum hoses:
Here is a wild jumble recognizable:
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Small parts, carburetor and intake manifold down and laboriously collected dirt of the last 39 years is now out of the interspace to light:
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Also, the sealing plate must come down:
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One might think here it might be a little leaky.

I'm pretty sure even there:
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The V of the V8 is now completely open:
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Now all parts are cleaned and waiting for the replacement. A complete sealing package and the sheet have been appointed since yesterday and tomorrow is expected to arrive here about it.

Thomas

You should be running much better after taking care of that set of leaks! :)ThmbUp You have done a fine job on that Winnie! Bobby :)clap

Amazing, absolutely amazing. :)ThmbUp

Today all the parts have arrived and were also installed directly again. Finally, we want to go tomorrow with the Winni and over the weekend on a mountain race - if tomorrow the motor can be adjusted.
The new sealing sheet:
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... And once again completely assembled:
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Thomas

 :)ThmbUp

With our small "rolling building site" we venture increasingly into Camping Feeling. Even if there is a "rolling building site" is still, we have the Winni visited a mountain race weekend. The water came out of the canister and the current from the battery - or the charge of the unit. Since the revision and adjustment of the engine of the Winni runs flawlessly and draws clean up the mountains. Only point of criticism is still the "fire up" the little ones - he likes so not ... if it runs but everything is fine.
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Thomas

Sweet is the taste of Victory. :)clap Well done Mate.

 ;) :)ThmbUp

Thomas

The Winni fits but actually before my own workshop  :)clap :D 50cm air were still in the driveway  :laugh:
Once there, I have expanded the thermostat for testing. This I suspected that's wrong and partly responsible for the pressure.
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Thomas

Wow, now the engine is running properly :)clap - up to the water system, which is still unchecked but now I care about the consumption something. Currently we are at 6.3 mls per gallon :-[ . As is likely to require action.

Thomas

As well known already in the blog "Travel", the Winni has a serious engine problem :-[ . Since I do not get it regulated time, he is now in a US Motor Home Workshop - from there came yesterday a call, with the diagnosis. The cylinder head of the right bank is corroded and must be replaced $@!#@! :'( . Now I'm curious to see how it goes. When I am gone my flu, I'm going to go to the workshop and to talk to the owners times.

Thomas

That is interesting. I have not heard of that before unless they mean the head surface is gouged from the gasket being blown out. I doubt that because it does not sound like you were losing compression, just water. I would like to see a picture of it. It sounds like something that could be repaired y machining the head but the main problem there is twofold. You would have to do both heads to keep the engine power in balance because, and this is the second problem. It is going to raise the compression. If you raise the compression by much at all you will have problems finding fuel to run without preignition. In other words you would need high octane gas, at 6 MPG. OUCH! At German prices! Triple OUCH!! ??? ??? ???
454 heads are not very hard to find here and probably much cheaper than over there. A friend of mine who lives in Germany imports stuff all the time in his business in containers. If you need to get them from here I can get his number and I am sure he would help you out. I had mentioned him to you before, he is into rally cars also.

Yes, they are 6mpg not what I like - here is something else to do.
That I have to work on both heads / sides, I am aware and is also so happened. Pictures I can send to, how do I get out of bed here. The flu has me already under control $@!#@! .

Thomas

Rest and fluids, That is all you can do. After following this thread since the beginning I doubt you are going to rest so at least drink the fluids, and that does not mean the German national drink, BEER! I sent an e-mail to my friend over there, I will let you know when I hear back from him.
Get well.

Beer? Someone say beer?

Get well soon Schmitti.

Beer..

Tease.

I said earlier that the 454 heads are not that hard to find here and now I realize you are working on a 440. D:oH! Probably still cheaper over here. My German friend got back to me and said no problem on shipping so if you need his contact info I have it.

Rick

Paid in beer.

The joke of the matter is, if you sit at the source of the beer, you drink it any more. As much as I drink one time - I've been drinking this year perhaps 10 x 0.33l it  :laugh: ;)
I have found so far several 440 heads here in Germany - but I still have no statement or comparison options, if there are differences from the car 440 to 440 trucks in the heads  i??
Thank you for your help  :)ThmbUp

Thomas

yes there is a difference in the heads your engine is most likely a 440-3 motorhome engine it has extra cooling passages in the head  where a regular car 440 doesn't  the 440-3 uses a tapered spark plug RV12YC champion and car engine is RJ12YC with a gasket

Thank joev, just as I thought that me :)ThmbUp .

Despite my cold and the almost lack of voice, was now was the destination: In the workshop, to Winni. There I got to see the extent of damage.
Head gasket:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinkopfdichtung%2520%281%29.jpg&hash=54f646a034e7062130db88a30952256886b2a690)

Cylinder head:
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The place 4th - 6th cylinder a little closer:
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And the block to:
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But there are positives to report. Today I was at the customs and have triggered my duck that I ordered in the United States three weeks ago. This will probably have their home at Winni in the future:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdeathduck1.jpg&hash=b4ca9e29ca93042fd787f502a7bf20df53114b92)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdeathduck2.jpg&hash=829c72c7300fbe5876062a61b8ef13a3b1ea5b3d)

Thomas

Yes, that is a pretty severely blown head gasket but the head is repairable. They could weld the low spot and machine it to match the rest of the head surface. It would not be cheap and it depends on the price and availability of a new head as to whether it is worth doing that. Is the block grooved also? If it is the that will have to be welded also. That gasket was blown for a long time. Once repaired you will be quite surprised at the extra power those two more cylinders will give you.

There was no time to more closely examine the flat surfaces. Whether it pays off, must still rausstellen and with new parts available prices are provided opposite.

That after the repair even more power is there - I am looking forward. However, I know now where my 6mpg came from. Because what will change for the better surely.

Thomas

Um.......................... About that 6 MPG................................... yea................... well....................er.............. OK.

I would like to say it will improve but that is generally the average with these. Remember that along with no compression you had little vacuum either so you were not pulling gas into those cylinders at a normal rate. once you get all 8 cylinders going you will be burning gas in all 8 instead of 6.

Just as is also my way of thinking  ;) ... everything will be fine again :)ThmbUp

Thomas

News from the motor workshop are now received by telephone. On breathing is announced. The engine block is still OK, and the heads still retrievable. The heads are scheduled to 8/10 and get a correspondingly thicker head gasket to compensate the measure again. By the way, all valves are re-sanded as they have not closed cleanly.
I'm looking forward to the test drive  :)ThmbUp :)

But there are also negative. The fine had authority in Kassel no understanding for our mishap and the corresponding parking solution for our part in the car park. This "history" is now punished with â,¬ 103.50  $@!#@!

Thomas

 D:oH! Good thing you got bad luck because if you didn't you wouldn't have any luck at all or so it seems. Love the duck. :)rotflmao

I love the duck well and she is (even if it looks ugly for others) on the nose by Winni.

Thomas

Keep in mind that thicker head gaskets are going to lower your compression ratio so you will lose a little power. You may be able to make some of that back by advancing the timing since it will not preignite as easily with lower compression. The amount will be pretty small. I hope they are welding up that gouge first and not just depending on a thicker gasket! The thicker gasket alone will not hold.

No, the thick seal alone does not work, of course :)ThmbUp . The head is planned / smoothed until it is straight again. Thus it is 8/10 smaller and exactly for this there is a thicker gasket to compensate. As a result, the compression does not lower and remains.

Thomas

Understood, that is exactly how it should be done. You are in good hands I see. Sorry to hear about the fine, as was said, if not were not for bad luck you would have no luck at all.

@ Rick:
I live, am fundamentally sound ... which is lucky for me - everything else can be set up or repair themselves  ;)

Again I have the statues out together, to moving images  W%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSMnkvfunD8

Thomas

There new from the workshop  ;) .

Positives:
The heads are planned, the valves are just ingrained new, the new and special cylinder head gasket is also arrived :) :) .

Clear, must also still something negative arise:
The manifolds have also been planned - the "unproblematic" on the driver's side must now have a crack course D:oH! .

Thomas

Last New's from the workshop. The heads are planned, the valves are all newly inserted and the problematic pipe is welded. The assembly is to be addressed in this month. Domes The further expansion as roof parts and other odds and ends accumulate slowly and want to be accordingly "processed". A pleasant envelope I received thanks to a postal strike in Germany today. Tina gave me made in original size and writing, new designer labels. Of course, the colors were slightly adapted to the current color scheme.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinnischriftzug.jpg&hash=85ae908297daa3d5e8c14e41cd76efa950508d93)

Thomas

A shaky short video reveals how to do it the Winni currently. The first notes ;) :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSsH7l7GPpY

Now the engine is still set and the transmission cut by the crankshaft to renew seal.

Thomas

Hello Schmitti, It took me a while to get caught up on your progress with 12 pages and all I can say is WOW. You are doing an outstanding job on your Winnebago. These are classic machines and I love to see them given a new lease on life. I'm curious to see your duck installed! Keep up the good work!  :)clap

Thanks Jess - I will continue to work hard, because I'm not done yet ;) W%

Thomas

Yesterday I was able to test the glory of the engine on a test drive. It runs perfectly and attracts great :)clap :)clap :)clap
.
Now still comes out the transmission, since us the seal of the crankshaft was sent incorrectly $@!#@! . Also, the system is again leaking Hydroboost  :'( $@!#@! - because I'm going to install a new :)

Thomas

You Sir are a true inspiration. Amazing work and great team work. Thank you for sharing....

Ups, "Sir" sounds like "blue blood" as the nobility or the Queen in England :-[ - I'm just a simple home mechanic with a dream ;) :)
Nevertheless, thanks for your praise and I promise you, it will go soon back on :)ThmbUp . In September, the holidays are over and it comes at Winni further :) :)

Thomas

Such a crap $@!#@! . For 6 weeks, I hang out with the crankshaft to the gearbox seal. Now the fourth seal has been delivered wrong $@!#@! i??

Thomas

Sorry they sent you the wrong part.  Great topic and thread though!  You'll get it all done!

Kev

Thank you for your positive encouragement :)ThmbUp
Everything will be fine - my speech :) . Only I'm going with the Winni this year probably can not be as planned the move :-[ :'(

Thomas

He's back from the workshop :)clap ... back in his home  :) - at least for a short time before it goes back into the domestic workshop to complete the Winni W% ;) .

Today was the long-awaited collection date from the little ones. Now everything is tight and the engine is running knotless. Now he has almost power in abundance and much less thirst :)ThmbUp
The 80KM (about 50mls) overpass were quite pleasant. The sound of the V8 is such a comforting sound, that it is actually too relaxing on the sofa driver's seat :-[ W%
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fheimkehr.jpg&hash=5f6228194c1c6e39626d28410c5f20463144ab79)

First order of business was first time to clean up the tool compartment and fill with the now purchased tool.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwerkzeugfach.jpg&hash=f58dabf75c508737ec8383950b4bf9871741264f)

Thomas

SWEET!!

Excellent!!!

Kev

Sunny Saturday and a lot to do ... from the workshop:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fparkplatz.jpg&hash=ec74c86e85daa65dfa3c07531f806fbb30918bd8)

This seemed so beautiful the sun, I decided to stay outside and to work there. All roof structures wait yes in the hall on their installation. Accordingly, it therefore went.
First Step - Clean and cut EPDM roof sheeting:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachluke1.jpg&hash=1ca1b85b1ee5649066e0b0604e8286b2ed9c721d)

Skylight with 2 layers of source tape for sealing is provided:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachluke2.jpg&hash=a0601d0971637ad90e1c3e232347a8004b0f473a)

EPDM sealant additionally inserted in between:
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screwed:
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... And the inner frame used:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachluke5.jpg&hash=0a63b1c00611adbc1c9a3ca17e6b767edd0a0e86)

So was working with all skylights and the air conditioning was not forgotten. Accordingly, the roof in the front section now looks like this:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachaufbauvorne.jpg&hash=e7cca894bd6f2856b5f2ef575798d57a65a67c1e)

.... At the rear of:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fdachaufbauhinten.jpg&hash=43c415dad5f72a26c6bb0d81b8c840bc47cbb2b4)

In the future it will be easier on the roof. Universal RV accessory makes it possible. It only needs to be slightly adapted and assembled:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fleiter.jpg&hash=8e8881cec383be7bf51ad9f9ad941cb045fae3f0)

Then the showpiece from the United States mounted. A simple chrome ring, I ordered a total of 4x but only 1x supplied from a US forum was reliable:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fjessemlampenring.jpg&hash=882aecd24d3a21cf908f49e2de57fb111fefb09c)
Thanks to JessEm !!

Thomas

Looking good!!!

Kev

Nice job, Schmitti! Well done!  :)clap

Thanks guys  :)

We went today and also in the most beautiful sunshine. Various little things were still being processed. First, the construction of air conditioning was reconnected inside and provided with her disguise. Then it was really important on ... but it just had to be lying ready Duck "Death Proof Duck" from the movie Convoy was adapted and assembled:

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fente1.jpg&hash=9e3ed7d2e55ab1acfd70f0689e5dd0658e5c09c3)

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After that it was demanding. The Water supply / disposal is yet to be completed and tested. So I started with the waste water. Both slide naturally open and firmly. A wire brush, WD40 and gentle violence helped here pretty quickly to do everything to move again. With a watering can, it has now been tested. In all drains (toilet, sink and shower) the first tentative liters were poured. In Winni the lines and their connections are sealing - but unfortunately not slide. So again ran and they opened several times and closed. Apparently here was just a little old dirt "stuck" because using the simple half well here.
Now, the water supply was my turn. The water pump and a water filter were indeed in Winni ... however loosely and in a compartment. So, at first install and connect to the original place - with no cable was found. Cable laid and connected, this humming ever. Now back to fetch water with a watering can and pour in the fresh water tank. The first 15Liter splashing around, just have a look and sift everything. As far as drying and found to be OK. This stands the little obliquely, these liters collected of course, where she needs none. At the other end of the tank - opposite the pump connection. Next pot ... another ... and another - gives summa sumarum about 60 liters. Clean turn in the Winni and the pump. Behold, it happens sometimes nothing. No water is drawn. In return, showing a hole in the tank, which probably once sat a fastening screw. Frantically the laboriously contributed liter regarding the expiry drained, because the good broth wanted in the direction of the fuse box. Runs extremely natural and super fast ... from a 6-year boy can drain quickly and more. During draining, protecting, wipe and absorb with a cloth, looking for an idea to close the hole. Various screws I had tangible. M5 through, M6 also falls, M8 to Dick - aha, is indeed a Ami, accordingly inch is here announced. Sure, I've beige obsolete and made with an M8 taps only once the hole used as a mass-produced electric screwdriver in your pocket. A suitable M8 screw, including a rubber gasket for roofing profiles I had happened to have also in the van. I shot additionally provided with the roof sealant and pure. Now the construct may even dry and only then we start with the test all over again.

Thomas

Love the duck!  Quack quack!

Kev

Last week I again can I steal time to make the Winni finish and bring home. That was at least the theoretical idea and plan $@!#@! .
Where the Winni is just, I wanted to bring him closer to tap the fresh water tank now to test and also to flush. Nope. He will not start. After several test's I found out that power arrives at the ignition ... but not get out. Ignition Coil I had then directly expanded as a pattern to the part search easier at my local US parts dealers. OK, then again run at the watering can and. ... I'm walking ... After the 5th jug disillusionment. My waterproofing works and is sealing. However, the joy was short-lived. A fitting of the tank also proves to be leaking and the soup is now running out under the seating group. Open faucet to drain, rags at and swabbed again. the problem is now parked and must wait. That's just what I have to complete the seating group to expand only once to get drann there. The time now I have not got the time being.
A 30-liter jerry cans I have now provided in order to have water for the toilet. The remaining water will be purchased in six-packs - that would be the solution for Lösnich (US Motorhome meeting) ... if the problem of the ignition coil is fixed and I also find the time, because my provider (which certainly in its huge storage has) is for shopping in the States.
Always the same. If I ever intend thing, it can not walk easily and smoothly

A new ignition coil I had found quickly. Then we went to Winni. Ignition coil pure, clamped and brought in a spark plug wire. A spark plug plugged in, fixed to the ground and turned the ignition key. What can I say ... spark not there, does not exist - not even rudimentary. Grmpfl. Once again all the cables tested, disassembled and examined the distribution ... everything is OK and approved. At twilight the phone seized, because I had something like a blackout, and a friend called to me to bring fresh ideas. After diveren go through all the sources of error, we agreed that it probably has to be the controlling part and I had already checked at this time - the weekend, and the Winni ... gas canisters idea that probably every had. After the phone call I got a spontaneous idea - Three well defined strokes with a ratchet on the crap thing and just do it again roll over the key ... the goat jumps to. Tool stowed quickly from the gas station and home - end and all is well  :)ThmbUp

Thomas

That sounds like you had a bad ground from the distributor to the block and the banging moved it enough to make a ground. There should be a gasket under the distributor so the ground path is through the distributor clamp, Make sure it is clean and tight. It also will ground through the shaft and gear to the camshaft but that is not a good path due to oil and gear clearance. Not dependable. I don't think I have ever seen anyone with as bad luck as you are having with this and yet you keep a good outlook. Must be the wine, or have you moved up to Schnapps?

Schnapps?! Auf keinen Fall. Feine Bayern- Bier.

(Hell no, fine Bavarian beer)  YA!  Lol  :)

Even this ground connection I checked Rick :)ThmbUp :) . It was clear, the controller (Chrysler Electronic Ignition) D:oH!
I thought I could now and then become an alcoholic - but hey, that life is too beautiful, to make it even bad. Problems on RIG are more challenges and therefore nothing bad W% .

I like to drink plain a beer, a good wine or a whiskey ... but I can well live without :angel: . On weekends we have Motorhome meetings celebrated our debut in the circle of a US - that was fun and also Promille sustainably ;) :D

Thomas

I keep forgetting you have a Dodge and not a Chevy. Those electronic units in the distributor were very troublesome. You might want to get a spare or two.

Yes, I have already considered, I purchased a new control unit.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1078297&parttype=7172 (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1078297&parttype=7172)
Thomas

You might also want to consider keeping a pick up coil as a spare too. These are probably not standard parts in the parts stores over there.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=942986&cc=1078297&jnid=471&jpid=2 (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=942986&cc=1078297&jnid=471&jpid=2)

Oh, And the ballast resistor

The pick-up coil and the ballast resistor is already new and readily available, since they are standard parts. For that I need to go only in one US parts store and they are on the shelf. For European conditions even very low. The ignition coil here costs 18 â,¬ (about 20.31 US dollars)

It continues with the rest of work. In the rear wheel houses I glued a sound. The thin plastic wheel arches were a bit noisy and rough tires are also not exactly quiet. To use I took rest material for sound-insulated blinds box with a small thermal protection.
Wheelhouses with acetone (for a lot of fresh air !!!) washed, cut plates "threaded" and pulled off the protective film of the adhesive layer, pressed and ready.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fradkastendaemmung.jpg&hash=a0b14dfca38d3fd2077658d3d2f5470c1ad9c317)
Power extremely positive effect :)ThmbUp :)

Now the problem of leaking fresh water tank was screwed. Go to work and expand the corner seat of the Winni. Then four holders came here to talk easily to the fore:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwassertank1.jpg&hash=232505c9df015203c07bd98a5fe26be664e7b0fd)

The actual origin of the leak:
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Carpet ripped out, once again 500 staples pulled out and turned screws:
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What my eyes see? Rusty holder and screws that were glued with silicone $@!#@!

Out with it and beige bring rubber seals:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwassertank4.jpg&hash=033fd76f87b2feb921d396d97c1c3f10347c5842)

What is on a timber, but that does not rot the screws can corrode so?
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Holder rehabilitated, the threaded holes pumped full of sealant, all bolted to the screw even enough of it and again:
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... And screwed to conclude the fiddly corner seat fittings ... fortunately there are now small but strong enough battery's and bit holders were also on hand:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwassertank7.jpg&hash=cb0d7ce3709511bc1e341537f5852ad5c20d6b93)

Thomas

Does that picture show that the fresh water tank is secured by driving screws into the tank?? ???

I might have opted to remove those screw mounts altogether and opt for a strap over the tank

Yes, unfortunately the screws go into the tank in a pure art sleeves. Another attachment would also prefer me and I have to do is come up with something sensible.

Thomas

I had after 500Km serious problems with the spacer. The included paper seal was found unsuitable $@!#@! . The included paper seal was found unsuitable. The now directly ordered in the US carburetor socket base gasket  has arrived.
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinvergasersockeldichtung.jpg&hash=ce6d6c22d0714a138d75912c378e8e90ce3a9b73)


Contrary to the thin paper seal, I hope a greater tightness, since it is considerably thicker and more flexible. Accordingly, I ran directly and have expanded the carburetor. Freed all parts of the provisional sealants and directly stated that now the studs are too short.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fwinvergaserbolzen.jpg&hash=ff8c06358d2a8134d6caeb6c1362eaac2d94c036)

Search again, order, wait time, and then hope for the hoped-for success.

Thomas

This is again an act that brings me to despair. I hate cable :-[ . However, I would indeed pull a trailer and accordingly the electrics to there must be installed on Winni.

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fr%2Frallye-team-schmitt%2Fahkkabelsatz.jpg&hash=3d19841cfbb44049230723e07e94c1f72f0e73f8)

Since I get my dear electrician to and leave it alone ;) .

Thomas

I have found matching studs and also get ...
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... Thus could take place the reassembly of the carburetor today.
Time was something there and the weather was dry times. The old stud out rotated, who turned new, seal it, Spacer top, next top seal, carburettor it and bolted. Throttle cable, return spring and gearbox lever reassembled, beige brings key and possibly ignition. Nothing, Battery empty. After I connected the power cable and started up the generator, the charger has laid on the battery. Short waited a little and the key turned again ... the beast is back among the living WHILE the engine was running, I put away the cable back on and off the generator - motor from the battery has clearly too little electricity directly. I have now expanded and connected to the charger at home. There are probably tomorrow then retest.

Pleasing there anyway. The first part of the "draft horse" has the Winni already behind. The completely up to 3500kg tested and approved towbar is fitted.
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Even if the towbar is free entry, I'll let you record in the papers. In Germany, something not easy. Everything needs registration papers and test numbers. Then I'll leave out the locksmith in me something, because I like the giant steel plate of the substructure not really. This is simply too low. It is not the question of whether we eventually put in order by the overhang, but rather when - because we put so be sure.

Thomas

Schmitti if the only thing holding that hitch on is the bumper! your going to peel that bumper right off the motorhome. If you look up under the back of the motorhome you'll see were the factory added an extension on to the back of the full frame of the motorhome. My suggestion is for you to go back to that part of the frame and bolt a piece of steel across the width of the frame inside to inside. Then run a bar from the center of that bar up to the bottom of the trailer hitch and weld it to the hitch. That would be my best guess. That bumper hitch might tow a little utility trailer........maybe. i??

Hi LJ-TJ
Look on the first or last image closely. The last image I have just edited, since the previous one has been shown twice. I know this is hard to read it. As you maybe can see the console, which is inserted in the original frame approach. So stable the bumper is also - as I hang anything on it.
I cling to the times an eBay link, so it is probably explainable.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Anhangerkupplung-FORD-F150-F250-F350-DODGE-RAM-1500-2500-HUMMER-H1-H2-H3-hitch-/262019549403 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Anhangerkupplung-FORD-F150-F250-F350-DODGE-RAM-1500-2500-HUMMER-H1-H2-H3-hitch-/262019549403)

Thomas

Schmitti, you were not taking the battery cable off and on while it was running were you? That is a good way to blow the diodes out in the alternator!

Yes, the risk was aware :-[ . Unfortunately, I had to work alone, so it had to go quickly - minimizing risk W%

Thomas

A "flying fuse" 20A that is hidden installed in the wiring harness of the control unit, was to blame, that the engine was not running $@!#@! . Following the renewal of 440cui also ran fine again and the carburetor has been tested for leaks, using brake cleaner. Sealing it is now back. Then it went off again to the engine tester.
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Both cylinder banks were again set clean. Now it can go on tour again. :)clap

Thomas

Great job so far!!!  Have a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!!!

Kev

Thanks ClydesdaleKevin  :)ThmbUp

Ordered 24h ago and already arrived today. The new 160 liter Dometic should solve our food cooling problem. :)

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Between the holidays there is probably something to do here, there will be little boredom. D:oH! :D

Have all a happy and beautiful, merry Christmas :)ThmbUp

Thomas

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Had enough Christmas. Eaten enough and celebrated, and also done nothing times. Today we went to my workshop. What falls directly out again? Right, for the Winni there is "something" too small. :-[

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The engine crane hanging too low ...

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... And the columns of the lifting platform are too close.

No matter. 2 ° C external room temperatures are still fully OK. At least it is here sheltered and dry.

The electrician began his work. He built a one switch, which I can now choose my Generators as "input" or "shore power outlet". For in the car I have already laid a cable. This I do not need more cable, which I must lay outside "to the Winni". Laziness has triumphed here. He also stuck to the wall socket for the trailer with the universal electric harness. Say: He connected the cables to the rear lights and I pulled 2 Plus Cable a '2,5² of the battery backwards. 10 meters below the Winni seals and the cable to the existing wiring harness failed in it ... great job.

By the way I have ever managed to expand the old refrigerator.
At first the doors off, so he ever pass through the "front door":
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After that completely out:
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What a battle. The entire bottom plate of the refrigerator was glued with silicone.
Now I have only times as far as measured everything and can refresh everything back with a wooden tray.

Thomas

Today I wanted to realize the installation of my refrigerator. From the Winni and the first start attempts are made. The Winni is already a long time "because stupid". Of course, he refused direct his ministry. Battery performance went down very quickly and I took my transporters to give it a jump start. Nope, he does not even so. The starter turns but the engine does not sounds like ignition. The sounds told quite clearly: No fuel or spark. Missing fuel I could exclude. The mech. Gasoline pump had enough time to convey and the tank is likely to be nearly full. So rather lack of spark in my thoughts suspicion. Since I had the problem already times and it was the loose connector from the controller at that time, I checked the times then. What do I have to see? The series resistor is on vaping!
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Grmpfl. Start cable disconnected, extended battery and spent in the workshop for charging. If the juice is in full again, I have with a few new cable lugs back to the Winni - seems to be here the contact and the plug "in need of renovation".

Thomas

Granted, That will have to be repaired. I hate ballast resistors Here is the problem I see, during cranking the ballast resistor is supposed to be bypassed so the engine should have started no matter whether those wires were burnt or not. It should start and die in this case but it should at least start. The reason for this is so the coil gets a full 12 volts during cranking to offset any drop in voltage from the draw of the starter. You may want to go over all of the wiring to make sure your starting circuit is all in order.

In any case, I will renew the connector before the next time you start and ensure a good contact. If he then starts and I can go to my workshop, I check the complete ignition / wiring to the most accurate. I do not want that burns the penultimate eyebrow Winni in Germany.

Thomas

With the key in start position, resistor should have zero volts input normally, or bypassed in Rick's words.  Would not prevent starting, but as soon as key goes to run position, engine would stop... So I agree with Rick that there could be a problem with wiring in the starting circuit.  Possibly the ignition switch, if you have not already replaced it.


With the burned ballast resister / wiring:  "Start" should work, "Run" should not work.

Corey, You may still be getting voltage to the resistor during cranking but the resistor would not be active since there would also be 12 volts coming to the other side of it from the coil being fed from the starting circuit. This way as soon as the key is let off you have instant power with no lag. I would have to see the diagram for this particular vehicle since I have seen it both ways. That burned plug was common on Dodge ballast resistors. I never replaced it with a factory plug, I always soldered on new dedicated connectors. Not original but they never burned either.

You are getting better at this Schmitti, now you know right where to go to find the problem. I just wish you could get out for a trip with no problems. I have never seen anyone persevere through as much as you have with this vehicle. Most people would have burned it by now!

Thanks for your nice words Rick  :)
I may have not given up, because I have a "pig-headed" D:oH! . Maybe it's just a legacy of my grandfather, who always said: This is to repair - can re-buy any. The work is indeed a certain extent hobby and fun. However, I must admit, that is a little less work on Winni would also be nice  ???

Thomas

2 red wires are power to resistor (from ignition switch)
black is coil +
green is feed back to ignition module
pink is the start bypass (comes from ignition switch)

http://dave78chieftain.com/Dodge_Electron02.html (http://dave78chieftain.com/Dodge_Electron02.html)

You could always go with a MSD ignition and that would eliminate the failure prone ballast resistor, Chrysler ECM  and the failure prone coil. All you would be using from the original system is the pickup in the distributor. Not really all that expensive when you consider towing and associated costs with breakdowns.

Thanks for your ideas, tips and suggestions :)ThmbUp .
I've already thought about whether I should not rebuild the complete ignition. Bosch is there a variety of high-volume products that are to be acquired for little money and have proven themselves anyway. It will probably result in a different coil and such a module:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/390914832079?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.de/itm/390914832079?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Thomas

Fortunately, it is currently a little warmer and I could at least sometimes to expand the defective parts.
In particular, both plug out
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... Since both plugs were totally "welded", also the Dual Ballast Resistor is broken
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Fortunately I can get all the parts simply and shortly in Germany. The will arrive the days and before I retrofits ignition may, I go only on an in-depth troubleshooting.

Thomas

This thing is a huge inspiration for my project! Definitely will be watching this one!

-Nick

Thank you. I am glad that may be my blog for other inspiration or even a help.

Auto electrical ... infinite, unfathomable expanses ... the devil's son ... $@!#@!

The sun is shining, 14 ° C, dry parking. Again the cabling checked - nothing. Launch attempt - nothing connected battery times with building battery - nothing- the result remains. As indeed may adopt a new starter, I have the expanded Y-pipe from, heat shield from, cable, the 2 bolts out ... for the action, of course, everything marvelously accessible directly via the front sitting must be ran from 3 different positions for. From above through the wheel well, from the bottom front of the axle and of course also from behind the axle. Then get rotated the strand and examined. All apparent gears OK ... again examined under the Winni and the teeth of the flywheel ... also OK. Cigarette break. Beige brings jumper cables and connected the battery to the starter - perfect functioning as it should .... CRAP. The complete work again and all range screwed backwards again ... Result: It is what it is. 3h work to know that the starter is in order - to know something is already times good W%

It must accordingly does not agree with the + power supply. All grounds are where they belong, and OK. To test, I even created an additional degree line directly - without success :-[ $@!#@!
... There is a case for the electrician and I will join from.

Thomas

The last few months again as a short film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka7CndPAKZc

Thomas

Great job Thomas, everything looks great :)clap :)ThmbUp

Thank You  :)

Thomas

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Looking good!

Kev

Check power wiring at floorboard of steering wheel.   The halfmoon connector for the ignition switch is a known trouble spot.

Great. I thank you for this tip and it will report to the electrician :)ThmbUp :) :)clap

Thomas

Nice work. made it look like it happened so fast. when we know how much blood sweat and tears must have went into all your hard work.
you encourage me!

Yes, it was hard work. Thank you for your words. Currently there is the weather somewhat slower continue but there is still a little way to my imaginary consummation of Winnis ahead.

Thomas

There's actually done a "hook" on the still long ToDo list. Our cushions are made ready and wait now that the dirty residual work in Winni end :-[ .
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The seats in Brown and backs in gray. Everything was provided on the rear side with buttons, so the covers can be sometimes removed and washed. Even curtains there now. The patchwork design is the future "close" the sleeping compartments a little.

Thomas

Many items for a new electrical system and ignition are ever arrived:
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Even some "Bling Bling" will soon be available. New stainless steel Hub Cap's:
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Today I had a little time "left" and could ever insulate the doghouse.
At first clean well:
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Because I do not trust the self-adhesive sound absorbing mats, there was a good amount of liquid adhesive to:
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Mat to warm it and with the heat gun. So already you can adjust the curves:
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Since the heavy foil contained no heat, there was direct or thermal protector, which is combined with more sound insulation:
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Of course, the 19mm thick mat can not be happy in the narrow curves process and was therefore recognized.


Although it is a closed cell mat but I would like to avoid in any case, the moisture penetrates. Therefore everything was still tightly bonded with aluminum foil:
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Ultimately, it looks like this:
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In the front wheel arches will soon do the same.

Thomas

In the short term, we have devoted ourselves today of the ignition system. The original "controller" and the new series resistor and other components have been removed. The harness was shut down and left as BackUp system in the engine wiring harness. The Bosch ignition module mounted, 4 new cable recovered and BMW High Voltage coil mounted:
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The Winni jumped without problems directly, was already in the state very clean and quiet. Various gas shocks, he also very greedy and directly. Hood strikes, tool off and onto the road. From the beginning, a clean swipe and known Sustained power. After around 10KM a small tour there was only a summary - runs absolutely clean and without problems ... as if it had never been different. The hood insulation for markedly noticeable. A distinguished engine noise of the V8 is still there but without unpleasant to be sound. Without further insulation measures conversations are already possible and relaxed driving is quite possible in the future.

Thomas

I'm thinking I will need to do the same thing to my '87. The 454 is loud enough to me that having the radio on in the dash is pointless. A little sound deadening might just do the trick.

I highly recommend it :)ThmbUp . Although I have been insulated only the Dog House, which has already become very noticeably quieter :) ;) .

Thomas

Holiday in Germany. Thus, I have finally a little longer time and agree to the Winni from the workshop.
First, the new coffee maker has been tested:
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Giant Cool thing that. We Works desired. Without electricity and purely on gas. I can not understand why there such a thing does not exist here in Europe.

The new hubcaps were installed quickly and look really good.
Rear:
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And of course Front:
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Then it was real. The refrigerator comes to Winni. Fit to only the new base plate. Besides a double socket was still in the partition integrated:
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Since the New is slightly smaller than the old refrigerator, I have fitted out 40x60mm square timber a substructure. The sealing strips were cut and reassembled:
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The upper end was identical procedures and a plywood panel closes the gap:
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Refrigerator provided in, aligned, attached and started the terminals. Gas re-drafted, 230V + 12V were also reconnected Wired and:
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Current front view until I fill material suitable for gaps have found:
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Thomas

  great job thomas   grts René

Geeeeess Next time you put something shinny on the rig pre warn us. I near went blind when I saw the hub caps. WOW! They look fantastic. Well done. The rig is really looking great. :)ThmbUp

Thank you  :) but I need more in the future not to warn, because that was the only thing that will shine like that. Everything else what is to come, although changed again the optics a bit but it no longer shines so bad ;)

Thomas

Another day is coming to an end and this was completely "sacrificed" with the fresh water supply. After we had already resealed the fitting of the tank in the last year, the water was now filled today for the 6th time. During assembly of the refrigerator, this has been intended but more leaks were discovered on the tank. These were closed with a soldering iron. Now it was again today to the water supply, as this is still a completely untested system. The really last major construction site at Winni. During filling, a small crack was again on the tank. Almost below the middle and not at the weld itself:
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Meanwhile I have exercise it, and it was also quite fast with the welding. Filled we have 75% of the entire volume. As far as the tank was ever close. The pump was connected to the mains in order now to check the water pipes. No water somewhere ... anywhere. Pump runs audible and also turns off after a certain period. Mmm ... what now? The upstream water filter already not filled and remained empty. By chance I saw air bubbles in the tank to rise. Grrrrrr - who has the pump is connected the wrong way round? unscrewed pump cable is disconnected, turned off water pipes and the whole rotated remounted. Next try. Sure, had to go wrong yes. The direct water supply connection even spits the cool water out again:
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Do we only times not. Line was unscrewed and closed with a blind fastener. Pump set into operation again ... next leak:
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The gray hose was improperly inserted into the system and should serve for the external connection. Had already found that that is not only time required. The closure at the other end unscrewed again and placed directly on the tee - the gray is now completely out of the game. Pump back on and it goes on with leaks:
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Now the hot water boiler was on the course. The edge in the picture is no edge, but a crack. OK, hot water will now also turn out only once. Luckily I still have such a boiler in new. As is to swap currently no time. Hoses screwed from the boiler and joined together by connectors. back to the pump and goes on the test ... clearly, it was not that, would be too great if the rest of the system would now be working:
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Now there was a leak from the toilet flushing. The copper closure is the cause. Unscrewed, hemp removed and found that no thread is on the plastic - great. Times strained whether and where I get for replacement. The pump has been put into operation again. WOW no further leaks. In the shower opened the faucet and the water ran clean through the faucet, the sink, as well ... it should now have been? Of course not ... would be too early happy after 10 hours of water games. In the sink namely was so well received no water. even tested waterworks. Before the kitchen are located in the pipes flows that pass through the ground to as to drain the system and accordingly to prevent frost damage. This would have the previous owner should probably do times. There the water arrived yet. OK, under the sink I have installed angle valves. This I then rotated and separated the water tap by the system - water did not come this far but with the new flush amatur. Funny, I do not believe that that is not working in the new state. Suddenly I had an Inspiration - in Germany we are in saving delusion. In head but a pass is limiter and the bubbling unit:
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Nu yes, now no longer really. After several small sieve and the limiters have been completely removed, I have the coarse filter still introduced a few holes and screwed back into the head - water is there. Site Check "water supply" is now not really finished but a big step we have come anyway. Now at least the last works are placed clearly and openly. Also, the water tank will need to be well renewed. Let's see how I get solved that little problem.

Thomas

Yes, for 2 years, it is an uphill battle with the Winni  D:oH! ... but I think I'll win W% ;)
After all, what have I done anything surprises me nothing ??? :)

Thomas

The night was thoroughly considered how to proceed and decided that the tank must be replaced. At various points I have now already patched him up and it seems to have no end. Way he must anyway - so I went today directly ran begun to work with the electrical system:
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Water connections were unscrewed quickly and then the front bench seat was unscrewed again:
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Slowly I should think this thing - hinges or clips.
Of course, he did not just went forward to pull out - the bracket for the belts is in the way and simply by unscrewing the bottom is not. The screws rotate through, because they have no support in the interior. Adherence was there no longer:
Helps nothing. The bracket must go. So sharper guns ascended:
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The locking latch was time - I need to? Nope! From the camp so:
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Of course, the partition is about 15mm deep drawn to that the tank can not come out from under the wood. Accordingly, another use for the saw:
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Then attached to the glass suction again and pulled out with the handle of the fall of the craftsman. Dirt the last 40 years and a large cave is to come to the fore:
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In the cave was only cleaned once, the last carpet remnants, another 1000 brackets and the mineral wool away.
The tank in all its glory:
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Examples, which is why I decided to get a new tank:
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After almost exactly 2 years of torment with the Winni, it today still also something positive - at least to the eye. After I built the corner seat back together, moved the cushion into the Winni.
Living room and guest rooms with curtain:
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Kitchen view with the furniture:
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Hard to believe that here an hour had some chaos before:
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Thomas

Stay the course sir. Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead!

I am thinking you may have to go with a rectangular tank and eliminate some of the fancy angles of the original. You may still be able to get that very tank from Winnebago but the price might be exorbitant!

Do not worry, I'll stay on course and will continue, as before ;) :)

A new tank is not supplied by Winnebago. The cost would be extremely high W% . Alone the freight and customs are enormous tax D:oH! . Even the method of construction I do not like. I'll get him rebuild himself. However, some in a modified form and in stainless steel.

Thomas

I replaced my fresh water tank with a used one out of a trailer paid only $50 Canadian  worked just fine just need to look around a little

I'm sure, in the US or Canada, the tanks are very common. Here to look at rather than rare in Germany. The local RV manufacturer to build a just small tanks where 100 liters already a very rare matter is - what should I do with such a small tank? I decided consciously for a US RV and partly because of the large tanks.
That's why I need not great for a used look out for and will recreate a new stainless steel.

Thomas

Extremely setback $@!#@! $@!#@! $@!#@!

The good 440 engine it behind :'( . The camshaft is run around, two pistons run without significant performance with only the eight cylinders see generally inside not so good - end $@!#@! $@!#@! .

Next week, the engine comes out and is re-bored and honed. Once everything clean again in New. Thus, I should finally after two years sometimes have a usable Winnebago and can go on vacation.

Thomas

sorry to hear that but I am glad that you are pushing forward with an engine rebuild

It must go on yes and no Motor is a Motorhome just a Home :D

Thomas

Are you going to change to roller tappets?  The reason I ask is that is the reason the cam rounds out.  The new motor oils for gasoline engines do not have enough sulphur additives to protect the camshaft and they wear.  If you are using a flat tappet cam, a good idea is to use diesel engine oil.  There is much more sulphur additive in that type of oil.  Rick

Thank you for this advice :)ThmbUp . I'll only once removed and dismantled the engine next week. Then I'll discuss with my engine builder, what we are doing and change it if necessary ???

Thomas

Roller tappets would be the way to go but that is a fairly expensive conversion. I am not sure about the 440 but I do know the GM engines need the heads machined for screw in rocker studs to hold the push rod guide plates. Does the 440 have pressed in or threaded rocker studs? It has been too long since I worked on one. As Rick said, at least over here in the USA  the oils have reduced sulfur to the point of not enough to lubricate flat tappet cams and everyone with older cars has gone to diesel oils which, while still having reduced sulfur, they still have at least enough for lubrication. Most 15W-40 oils here are diesel oils. You could also add a sulfur additive to the oil.

Another Winnebago is us "running up" ... in the form of a Parfumflacon. Something there were times of Avon (Avon Are there also in the US and is known ?:
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The "real" Winni slowly recovers from his engine failure. The motor is by the engine manufacturer, in recent operations.

Thomas

Check motorcycle oil for high ZDDP content, especially for engine break in (motorcycle = off road use).  Also we have Brad Penn racing oil that has high ZDDP levels.
(my 2 cents, Craig)

Legal bored it stands currently and can not do otherwise:
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The round shape of the V8 in 350-400Kg missing here pretty - this emptiness do not really like ... is time that back what comes in:
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Until the engine from the engine builder is back, other work is carried out. Thus, for example, the new water heater installed:
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And a new (larger) toilet is now as well. The old would have been in a nursery school fits:
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Thomas

Thomas, wile it is open, I recommend replacing the Transmission Frt seal right behind the convertor, Check the bushing for wear also , Don't forget to  place a large pan under bell housing as you can get some ATF as you pull the convertor off, Before removal mark the Inside of the bell housing so you will be shure to reengage Frt pump drive lugs when the convertor goes all the way back in Refill trans after first start  Frank

Hello Frank,
Thank you for your note :)ThmbUp . I had already considered and the seals on the gear already renewed ;)

Thomas

Wow, after an eternity the engine completely rebuilt arrived back today. Starting tomorrow is installed :) :)
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Thomas

WHOA!!!!!!

Edelbrock aluminum heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Schmitti's going to be out in the lot smoking the tires on the Winnie!
I am guessing that since you went to the expense of the heads that you did not go with the stock cam?

Hi Rick,
I do not now believe that the tires will smoke during start driving :D :D

Help me please times with the phrase:
I am guessing you did since went to the expense of the heads did you did not go with the stock cam?
My English is not the best  :-[  What does "Stock Cam"? i??

Since there are on the front axle Mercedes-Benz wheels, no Dodge rims were here discoverable in Germany, which I imported from the USA:
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They largely disappear under the hubcaps ... but I can not absolutely screws to the car. Therefore, they were summarily stripped with the Flex and a plastic hedgehog.
Before:
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After the anti-corrosion primer:
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... And with the top coat:
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Thomas

The "Stock" or "original" camshaft that came with the engine. Did you change to a to a higher performance camshaft?
Here are a couple of online translations. Let me know if either makes sense.

QuoteDie " Auf " oder "Original" Nockenwelle , die mit dem Motor kam . Haben Sie auf eine höhere Performance Nockenwelle auf eine Ã,,nderung ?

Das "Lager" oder "original" Nockenwelle, die mit dem Motor kam. Haben Sie geändert, um eine zu einer höheren Leistung Nockenwelle?

Wow Rick....You've crossed over to another level :D

I aim to please.  :)ThmbUp

Ahh, I'm so stupid D:oH! - clear "cam" = camshaft - "Stock" = (in German) "Original" or "Lager" D:oH!
Yes, the engine everything was renewed. Whether pistons, oil pump, camshaft, etc. - regardless of everything. We have as far as possible the engine optimized. But not for a peak power (hp) but rather to torque (Nm) and consumption.

Thank for your help and translation  :)ThmbUp

Thomas

NOT stupid! Just a language barrier. Been there, done that.  Quebec, Canada in the 60's on a motorcycle. I found out they hate Americans up there and I do NOT speak French. My experiences there were so bad I have never been back. Vietnam was no different.  French and Vietnamese were the two main languages. By the time I got there a lot of the Vietnamese people knew some basic English but usually chose not to use it unless they needed something. I would like to go back there though since the people as a whole were very friendly.

Rick, you need to go west! Much friendlier Canucks out west!!!

I agree. But, maybe a bit further west.

With "stupid" I meant only that I also own the solution could have ;)  That was actually not difficult - but you're right ... the language barrier :)ThmbUp :)

I have with other countries 'problems' Rick. So you're not alone. As a German I am unfortunately still not welcome everywhere - even though I'm only 44y.o., I have to play the heavy inheritance of our historical past. In southern France I'm starving years ago because no one wanted to use in a restaurant ??? .

Anyway, here is a false issue. Back to the actual Winni. The engine is almost finished in the engine compartment. On Monday I get finished him hopefully  :)

Thomas

Thomas, I have said it before and I will say it again, I cannot believe the dedication you have put into this project.

And to the Canadians, I have been very well received everywhere else in Canada, no worries there.

Unfortunately, it is a very long time ago that I wrote what here. I was very professionally involved but it was of course "on the side" on Winni on. The engine is in its place and purring now as it should. After installing the engine, the annual audit by our traffic monitoring (German TÃœV) was due. Since we have had to make an extra special. Here in Germany there is a special authorization for classic cars. This must be at least thirty years old and are considered worthy of preservation. This test is not an easy, since various difficult conditions contains. But we have made it to the Winni. Now new plates could accordingly be made and it is apparent to everyone. Through the "H" at the end of the numbers, it is now a renowned classic car. This we can go anywhere in the city centers now and our vehicle tax decreases even from 590 â,¬ to 192 â,¬.
Old Plate:
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New Plate:
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Last Wednesday we went in the late afternoon. The goal "Palumpaland" (the name of the camp) has been entered into the navigation system, thus providing species participation of the autumn meeting of US Motorhome Forum was given. Late at night we arrived at the reserved parking space. The next morning we could only see how beautiful we stand there on the lake:
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Open View from the bath:
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The surrounding area was explored:
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The memorial can be reached from the campsite but only if you go through this gate:
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I translate the name of the street you sometimes do not - I do not know if your me then believes or it is modest ;) :D W% .

Small overview of the area:
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Well 600km (372mls) have been driven without any problems with the new engine. The fuel consumption has been amazing, reduced to 25,6l / 100KM (9,18mpg). I am satisfied with the result.

Thomas

Congratulations Thomas! It has been a VERY long journey to get here. Let us hope you have many more long, trouble free journeys to come.

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp Congratulations!!!!! We've all been pulling for you.

Holy Cow that's exciting. The rig turned out just beautiful. It's been a blast following your journey. Thanks for sharing. You have a lot to be proud of. Well done. CONGRATULATIONS.  :)ThmbUp :)clap :)rotflmao

I thank you all, for your positive feedback :)ThmbUp :) .

But do not think that the thread is now over here ;) . I have several different conversions before. Now I am happy, however, for the first time, that he drives almost problem-free.

Now I have to take care of the rear axle. I suspect the wheel bearing ??? . The noise started on the last 100KM and increased in volume. Now I must first find out which rear axle is installed exactly i?? to order the new bearings.

Thomas

 !-!Do not delay , If you have a noise that can be heard getting louder , You have a very bad problem , The bearing is disinigrateting  This can allow large enough pieces to get to the ring and pinion creating broken gears, The differential must also be drained and cleaned as well as possible If it has a removeable cover all the easier Installation of a permanent magnet (glued in out of the way ) will catch any remaining particles Running rags thru the axel tubes will clean them out Frank

The bearings on the Dana 60/70 do not usually go bad that quickly. Was the differential full of oil? Was the noise louder turning to the left or right? That would tell you which side. If 5the same then it could be a bearing in the differential. A pinion bearing will get louder as you accelerate and quiet down as you let off the gas. Differential side bearings stay the same no matter what usually. It is easy to check the wheel bearings, just take the bolts out of the axle and pull the axle out just enough to clear the flange and then spin the wheels. If the bearings are bad you will hear it. If neither side is noisy then you will need to take the differential cover off. I always put a coffee filter under there to catch the oil so I can see what is in it after it filters through. You will see any metal flakes from bad bearings.

Thank you both, for your help. At the moment it is a "hum" that is audible on the left side. Curves have so far had no influence on this. On the straight line it is audible. So far, I have not done anything, since I have to look first and check which axis is accurate. With the data, I will simply re-order all bearings. Also the diff I will open, clean and fill with new oil - after 40 years such an overhaul can not be wrong.

Thomas

I did the same thing changed all the bearings and seals in the rear axle before I started to drive our Winnie after sitting for 10 years not moving there was rust in the axle tubes. Had to dismantl the complete rear axle clean and replaced all bearings and seals for good measure  driven it 20000 miles in the past 3 years  with out and problems . You have done a great job on yours hope you will enjoy it for many years

I think the same. I have now ordered everything for the Dana70 axis, which one could use so. Until the axis is revised, the Winni is not moved to avoid any further damage.

Thomas

Now it goes on. The planned renewal of all rear axle bearings can start. The installed Dana70 rear axle is available in three versions. From "Light" to "Heavy Duty" everything is possible but not visible from the outside. So I ordered all three variants.
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Incl. Oil and a new diff cover is as far as possible ready for renewal.

Various remodeling ideas I still have at the Winni and by the way I have today a "new" seat fitted. Of course, the seat rails were so unsuitable that a completely new substructure was necessary.
Right the old seat with bogie and left of the well Used with fixed bottom box:
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So, ran to the factory and the box and the bogie unscrewed. Measures taken and briefly considered an idea, ready thought, briefly in the material warehouse the idea on implementation checked and go went it.
The reinforcement plate in the center has a height of 14mm. The sheet was freed from its color and cut two 15x15mm four-piece tubes, measured and fixed:
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A few smaller welds later:
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Since now simply a flatiron over it, was too easy and unstable. I chose a strong angle. Tailored, drilled, notched, welded and primed:
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Painted with black paint and under the new seat:
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Fits and works well in the Winni:
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Soon the other seat will be added.

Thomas

 D:oH! Man your amazing. That looks fantastic.

Thank you, but this is also my job ;) . I am a metal worker and therefore it is nothing special for me :-[

Thomas

The rear axle is successfully overhauled and the second set is also moved into the Winni:
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Thomas

Did you find bad bearings in the rear or just the axles? Seats look fantastic.

Those seats look fantastic. :)ThmbUp

No, no camps were broken and apparently only worn. We have looked at all the components meticulously, the axis and the diff cleaned thoroughly before we put everything together again.

Thomas

Hmmm Is the noise gone ?  Was the lube watered down  ?    Wear pattern on ring & Pinion look normal ? Was backlash excessive ? Odd not to be able to see problem !  Frank

And did you check the center support bearings on the drive shaft? The ones between the different sections of the shaft that are bolted up to the frame. They give a vibration when they go bad and the fact that turning made no difference and you did not find anything bad makes me think of other things that could cause the problem.

We had split the complete axle and "vacated". Only the Diff remained in his place. The bearings were discolored and the oil was not very handsome. The smell was also bad. So I think the oil was out of date and the camps had begun to dissolve. This had not yet happened and we had noticed it in time. During a subsequent test drive, all the noises were gone - that is, our work and the control of all parts could not have been wrong.

Thomas

Excellent   The final result is what is important, Good Job Well Done   Frank

 :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp   You cannot possibly have many parts left that you have not replaced or rebuilt!

Latest and last impressions of Winnebago:
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Joup, the attentive reader, has discovered in the picture an export code (number Plates). Rightly. The theme of Winnebago Chieftain ends here. It has given me immense pleasure to restore this vehicle and bring it back on the road. The pictures and the construction report has however hit the web powerful waves and became conspicuous. A very nice Dänish man wanted to have the Winni. I had not advertised the Winni, I did not want to lose him, I did not have to sell him ... but I could and did it. Why? - does not belong to the network

So here in the thread it does not go any further. I would however gladly remain with you in the forum (if I may) and the helpers give the help, which I can offer. Also I will again a US RV increase but I have still no idea which or by which manufacturer. I have to see what the German market offers me.

Thomas

Hey Schmitti it's been a blast. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Stay in touch and let us know how you make out.

Thank you for your words. :) :)ThmbUp
I like to let you know what I am buying next - but it looks like it will be a 2001 Four Winds with Workhorse Chassis and V8. Is that old enough for the forum?  :-[ i?? Especially since it is not Winnebago or Itasca.  ??? :-[

Still the purchase is not made, because I still need a certificate from Workhorse, where it is, what the vehicle for a trailer (weight) can pull.

Thomas

Thomas, this has been a hell of an interesting topic. Lots here have followed your work throughout. Your purchaser got a very nice unit. Please keep us advised of your new RV when you buy one. Your adventures will continue.

I CAN'T believe you sold it!!! After all of that work there is no way you could have gotten half of what you had into it. I am thinking you figured get out while the getting was good? I think I can speak for everyone here and say you have earned a place on this forum regardless of what brand or year you buy. A 2001 is 16 years old, in most states in the USA a car that is 15 years old is a Classic (or used to be anyway). Stick around.

Rick

I think you are just like me when all the repairs were done the fun was over I was ready to sell also But then I found out i can no longer do the necc work on another one . So we are stuck with ea other till i die or hit the lottery  Ha Ha  :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao  Frank

O wow, what an encouragement and praise :-[ ... I have only breathed life into a characterful Winnebago
I thank you all heartily, what nice words you have for me. But I had by no means lost the pleasure of Winni or was finished with my work. I had different ideas in my mind that I would have liked to do. I would also like to spend more time with the Winnebago together on vacation but it lured the money quite simply.
If the forum boss allowed it, I will then very gladly start with a new MoHo a new thread. However, I have to buy it first. This is unfortunately delayed because I have not received a response from Workhorse.

Thomas

From what I have seen in other forums Workhorse can be a difficult outfit to deal with.

The GFK skin of the construction is just not without. But I should be able to handle this, too, if there are bumps. The chassis is beautiful thick steel - the least problem ;)
Problem is here in Germany rather that there is no pulling device for the trailer in the vehicle papers. To change this in the papers, you need original papers with the train loads from the manufacturer. Without it, I do not buy the FourWinds.

Thomas

Understood, You may not be able to get that from Workhorse if the coach manufacturer added to the frame length. That is pretty common on the newer coaches and Workhorse is not going to take on any liability due to someone else's workmanship. You might have to get that information from whomever the coach manufacturer is. Will your people accept that?

That's exactly how Rick is :)ThmbUp  Either from the manufacturer of the body or from the frame manufacturer. The company, which has welded the transverse beam with the four-hole hole, has to be certified in Germany and equipped with the VIN, can prove what a trailer is allowed to pull with it.
Also prospectuses with the information would be helpful and can lead to the goal via detours.

Workhorse has already received an email from me since Friday, with a request ... unfortunately no answer yet i??  Absolutely none :'(

Thomas

I was I think the first "Rogue" member with the Tiffin, I had joined because my purchase was to be a 1987 Chieftan but the deal fell apart when the inspection failed epically and the owner would not reduce price to compensate....  and that was 10 yrs ago now....   so yes Stick around!!!

So, yesterday bought and picked up. It has become a Four Winds built of 2000 with Workhorse chassis. It is powered by a very economical V8 gasoline engine. But I really do not know if the RV here belongs to the forum.

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Thomas

Weeeeeelll, Hm? Your an RV. I guess. D:oH! :)rotflmao yeah your welcome here any time. We all make mistakes we won't hold it against you. :)rotflmao Merry Christmas Schmitti.

It's an RV and it is 17 years old, That's a classic so I vote that it belongs. (A 2000 that is 17 years old! That is depressing! I am ancient!!!)

Congratulations on the new home, I certainly hope you do not have to do anywhere near as much work on this one and you can get to exploring the country.

If Oz decide whether I can bring you there RV in a certain category. I would like to make no mistake or negative. :-[

Basically, I could use it directly. :)ThmbUp  Also a fresh Street Legal exam was already :) ... but I would like to renovate or upgrade various components. W%

Thomas

of course you would......

Anyone wishing to be a part of our community is welcome! The home page description is for pre-1990 RVs because that's about where the technology really changed from the previous decades and our forum and resources have been built and grown around this era.

We've had members with 2000 RVs and newer, but the knowledge and resources for them is nearly nil here since it's not really our focus so it's only logical that they quickly discover that we don't have the member expertise and experience nor the resources to support them and they become inactive (very closely followed by those with models from the 1990s).

To fully accommodate the newer years would require an extensive expansion of the site and its scope, which although is certainly possible, it changes the very nature of the community from classic and vintage to a generic, all-inclusive community, which would take away our niche with those RVs of yesteryear.

Rick your not ancient  :( your a flip'n fossil. :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao

Are you talking about motorhomes, or girlfriends?   :)rotflmao

Ouch.....

Hey, hello - do not argue about me N:( :(

I can understand Oz decision. He has a beautiful RV forum, which is specialized in the older models. It is perfectly clear to me that I can not get any resources on the technology here. For me it would have been more about the beautiful community.
As long as there is no own thread about newer RV's, I'll respect Oz decision. I will still stay here (as long as I can) and get as good as I can.
My experiences with the Winni were nice and extensive. So I think I can be helpful to the community.

Thomas

 :)ThmbUp  on all points made.

Woah,Woah Woah STOP THE TRUCK. BACK UP A MOMENT. I don't think that's what Mark ment. I stand to be corrected but I interpreted what Mark was said was we don't currently have a lot of support information on NEWER RV. We have tons of stuff on the old rigs but I've never seen a whole lot of information on the Newer stuff. Geeeeeezzzzssss Schmitti don't be going any where. Your just fine here. It's just that you will probable the new guy in town with a newer rig that everyone will be looking to for help. You'll be the guy that will be helping us gather and archive information on newer rigs. Geeeeeezzz slow down a bit Lads. i?? D:oH!   

I think there are some good points made, and perhaps emotions are a little high right now.


Mark did a favor to so many, and we have a forum and a great deal of info that is not available elsewhere.  As an example, when the forum was down recently and I was Googling my heater problem about 70% of the hits directed to this site,  No one wanted to do it and as Rick kind of pointed out, the older rigs are of little interest to most, and there is a growing need for self support on say 1990 to 2000.  Perhaps in the future, someone like Mark will start a site that's "Welcome to Semi classic Winnebago's with delaminating side skins"   :)ThmbUp , or maybe Mark will further divide this place to accommodate.  Whatever happens, it gets build by the community in reality.


One of the things that Mark has indirectly pointed out is that the FOCUS here has lent to a compact and easy to search site for information on these older rigs.  We have all been to the other huge sites with in your face advertising, and finding usable information is a needle in a haystack, and the BAD information increases exponentially given the huge number of people.


If I post information or a request here someone answers.  The other sites, not so. and I am grateful.

And remember.  This Christmas give the gift that keeps giving.  A long haired un-spayed cat.

Stick around Schmitti!!!  As Mark said, you are quite welcome here and having a newer rig doesn't exclude you.  We like your posts, and we look forward to hearing about your adventures with your 2000 RV!  And seeing lots of pictures!!!

And remember...although the engine system will be different with computers and fuel injection and whatnot...the rest of the RV is just like the older ones!  AC is the same.  Generator is the same in principle.  Hot water heat is the same.  Furnace is the same.  Refrigerator is the same. 

And here is the big question.  Are you going to put the duck on the new RV?  :D

Kev

Schmitti,

I was being as honest as I can about our ability to help you with your newly acquired RV and the scope of this forum.

And the most important point, is as I said, of course you are welcome to stay.

Although our ability to help you is extremely limited, you have a world of knowledge to share with others and you've been as much a part of our community family as anyone.  I hope it will continue.

:) :)ThmbUp

 

And here is the big question.  Are you going to put the duck on the new RV?  :D

Kev
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Thomas
I think we all want to see more of the duck!

Maybe it was due to my bad English but I as a person never had to leave you. In the past 3 years I have been able to gain intensive experience with the Winni. These experiences I can still bring in since they were sold with the sale, not with.

The Four Winds is not a Winnebago or a classic or even both. There is no subforum for such a vehicle and therefore (still) it does not belong here. This I respect.

... yes, the duck also comes on this car. However, I still do not know exactly where the Fourwinds has no nose.

Thomas

We have in the pass been known to make exceptions to the Rules. Looks like everyone here is making you the exception. So keep your boney bum right were it is. I'm sure Mark will make a spot for your rig on the forums. :P :D :) :)rotflmao :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp

Schmitti:  The chassis on most stayed the same for years and years.  The only big improvement for decades was fuel injection.  As someone pointed out, the appliances have not changed (stove, furnace, oven refrigerator) And now that I think of it the manufacturers must have enjoyed that.  About the only way you can tell the age on a motorhome is the different body they stuck on it  :) 

I think the duck would look great right above the center front marker light, just where your top fiberglass slopes back to the roof.  :D

Kev

Shoot I'd build a bracket and mount it right were you mounted it on the old Winnebago. Right in the center where the hood would be on a real motor home :)rotflmao :)rotflmao :)rotflmao Come on I'm just kidding.

In memory of a nice time, the Winni will always go along in the future ;) :)

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Thomas

Quote from: Schmitti on January 04, 2017, 03:28 AM
In memory of a nice time, the Winni will always go along in the future ;) :)

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Thomas

Nice!  Now about that duck...

Kev

 :D :D :D :D later  :)ThmbUp ;)

Thomas

WHAT?!?!? Oh. He said duck. Never mind.......