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Title: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 06, 2014, 10:53 PM
67 Lifetime Town & Country where is the dipstick fur the oil? 
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Post by: Oz on March 06, 2014, 10:56 PM
Engine oil or transmission oil, or both?
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 06, 2014, 11:06 PM
Engine. The tranny was bone dry after sitting for 8 years :/
The engine is quiet and smooth but for the life of me I can not find the dipstick lol
Thank you so much :) !
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 07, 2014, 06:38 AM
If this is setup like my old 77 Coachmen was, if that front grill comes off, look for it behind there..
Mine had a tube that was was made to go from the front of the RV just behind grill, all the way to the engine..  I swear that dipstick musta been 4 feet long.. Hm?
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 07, 2014, 11:19 AM
Dip stick  Number 6750  I assume it is a Ford, inline 6, 300CID.
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Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 07, 2014, 01:09 PM
Gee JD, ya could have added left side (drivers side) between the fuel pump and oil filter.  :)
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 07, 2014, 08:40 PM
Wow, it's like WAY back there.. ???
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 09, 2014, 12:39 PM
LL27
Did you find the dip stick?
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Post by: Froggy1936 on March 09, 2014, 01:40 PM
It,s possible the stick is missing !  Frank
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 09, 2014, 02:54 PM
I have not found it nor the void where it goes, lol. Thank you for your help. I will crawl underneath if it ever stops raining. (It's parked on the ground) I'm not finding much info on this rig. It appears to have three gas tanks??
The PO had it running on an electric fuel pump and gas can in the cab. It did the job except I had to reposition it when it ran dry on dead man's curve when I was driving it home. YIPES!! HAHA but it's a runner. Starts right up ;)
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Post by: LJ-TJ on March 09, 2014, 03:15 PM
Have you tried looking up lifetime premer motorhome on the internet. There's a fellow out there that owns quite a few of them that might be able to help you out.
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 10, 2014, 07:06 AM
I'm in Seattle, would you like some help???  I have rain gear and I ain't afraid ta use it!
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 11, 2014, 03:29 AM
That's a kind offer Mr. Fredric. I may have to take you up on that, only not just yet. I have been putzing around with the interior (cleaning etc..) and have no funds to invest at the moment for such things as the missing dipstick, lol. Thank you so much. I do believe I found the hole where it goes ? :/ I will post pics tomorrow.
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Post by: Stripe on March 11, 2014, 04:14 AM
Groovy.  If you need any interior stuff, let me know. I may have some extra things layin' about you can have...


If anything, hell we can do a meet n greet and put some pics up.  Plus you would officially be the first member I met from this site.. :D
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 11, 2014, 09:04 PM
I have a Parts 300 cid inline 6 Ford motor and it has the dip stick and the tube. If you want it PM your address and I will send it to you.  Providing you find the hole for it. LOL I'll take a picture of it tomorrow.

I call this my instructional motor. I use this one before the one in the Winne. I can see all the stuff! Maybe LOL
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 12, 2014, 03:29 AM
JDxeper, that's so wonderfully, fantabulously awesome!! I'll PM you and I will try to post a pic of the "hole" I believe to be the one for the dipstick. I further believe the PO removed the mechanical fuel pump and capped it off. :^/
I used to turn my own wrenches all the time but I have a serially bad neck now and am sooooooooo frustrated that I am unable to git er dun. I tried to post the pic here but it was to large so I put one in the gallery. Thanks again. You bids are awesome!!


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Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 12, 2014, 08:46 PM
Ok, I put some pics in the gallery. I think they are public now. I found a dipstick in the rear hatch. It seems short maybe but, ? Also I think I located the hole for the dipstick. Pics are in the gallery, if anyone would be so kind as to take a gander an offer up thoughts, I would be very grateful. Thank you so much for your help. This is a nice board. I've been on some that are a Lil impatient :/

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Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 12, 2014, 09:18 PM
That looks like the oil dipstick and tube. See the above picture.  The entrance hole should be straight down between the distributor and the fuel filter
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 12, 2014, 09:24 PM
Ah, cool. Thank you ! Wonder why it would be in the rear  hatch?  Did you happen to see the hole I was referring to? :) the one that appears to have COTTON in it :/ thinkthat's where it goes?
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 12, 2014, 09:29 PM
Possibilities:

I found this picture version:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.supermotors.net%2Fgetfile%2F875511%2Ffullsize%2F062511131800.jpg&hash=a398b249f81e9405cb56cfd7d121b344b9add516)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1078034-84-dip-stick-frustrations.html (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1078034-84-dip-stick-frustrations.html)


And this is another version:
(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpirate-electric.com%2Fimages%2F2.jpg&hash=7c48c159e1e993d34537151b5685fdc1e1fd1340)

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1077796-can-i-delete-my-breather-extension.html (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1077796-can-i-delete-my-breather-extension.html)

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 12, 2014, 10:31 PM
I believe your version has the dipstick hole in front of the dizzy.   Yes I saw the pic.  Best I can tell that should be it.
I'll see if I can get a better picture of where the tube enters the motor.
There are two versions of the dipstick , one that goes through the block. two enters via the pan near the rear of the pan.  I believe yours is the one that enters via the block just in front of the dizzy.  the block hole may or may not be threaded.  It appears to be the none threaded type looking at your tube.  below is a pic where the tube enters the block.
The bottom pic shows the in pan type dip stick near the rear of the pan.  I have the pan and tube but on dipstick.
If you look close in front of the oil filter is the port for the in block dipstick.  It is plugged
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: legomybago on March 13, 2014, 01:38 PM
If he cant find the hole....then it may need a differant oil pan. Ford had some years of dip sticks entering from the side of the oil pan...Not sure if they ever did this on the inline sixes or not???   ???
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: JDxeper on March 21, 2014, 11:45 AM
Did you find the port for the dipstick?
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 21, 2014, 05:40 PM
I think so..
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 22, 2014, 08:38 PM
Hi Thank you so so much! To tell the truth I haven't been able to get to it. I'm gonna go after it tomorrow, thanks to your picture!! :) I wish I could find more info on this thing.
Thanks again for y'al's help. I'm sure I'll be asking more quartos :)
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 12:37 AM
Well, after seeing your pics I went out to try again and I'm stumped. The one on the block is solid cast and I don't see one in the pan either. The girl said it was a marine motor, I thought she probably meant the deep cell marine battery? I put a pic in the gallery. Thanks for any ideas, lol i??
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 04:27 PM
QuoteThe girl said it was a marine motor

As in not the stock motor?

If so you might have a double whammy.  They replaced the engine with one that used a oil pan dipstick but placed the original oil (block oil dipstick) pan on the engine.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 04:33 PM
Well, shoot, what to do next? Lol that would explain some shiny bits here and there. The motor runs very quiet and smooth  ;)
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 04:41 PM
Can you take some pictures of the complete side of you engine rather than just pieces please?

Your only choice may be tracking down a new oil pan.  That may require a different oil pump too.  But you would also have to make sure the new oil pan clears the straight axle.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 04:45 PM
Ok, I'm on it :) brb
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 05:16 PM
Possibly this one: Platinum P/N 2640024 (http://www.platinumparts.com/p-8080-2640024.aspx)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.platinumparts.com%2Fimages%2FProduct%2Ficon%2F264-024-007.jpg&hash=2647108fc2654e2cad3c4e59a2abb0f863deedd0)

The description does indicate the dip stick in oil pan.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 23, 2014, 05:29 PM
Here is where it would have gone..

edit: nm.. ???


Glad to have helped..
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 05:37 PM
This version (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1077796-can-i-delete-my-breather-extension.html (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1077796-can-i-delete-my-breather-extension.html)) :

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpirate-electric.com%2Fimages%2F1.jpg&hash=4ba3421f4c6d689e5b5bc7a4c5084096a8e95bdc)


Goes into the pan here:

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpirate-electric.com%2Fimages%2F3.jpg&hash=0fe746fba535d5078047d672a30b9d8fb6353336)


Another version, from same thread I linked to, enters the block after the oil filter:

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpirate-electric.com%2Fimages%2F2.jpg&hash=7c48c159e1e993d34537151b5685fdc1e1fd1340)



Showing possibilities for options.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 06:35 PM
LilLucy,

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Unless there is a hole between the oil filter and oil pressure sender like used for the yellow handled one in this pic (below) that I cannot see in your pic (above)

(https://www.classicwinnebagos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpirate-electric.com%2Fimages%2F2.jpg&hash=7c48c159e1e993d34537151b5685fdc1e1fd1340)

You are looking at replacing oil pan.  I doubt you want to hear that though.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 06:59 PM
Yeah Dave, you're correct. I think I'm over it and will pass it along to someone more willing and able to fix it. I really wanted a trailer to tow behind my '68 International Harvester pickup anyway. I just thought this was so cute and unique. It is a head turner, people stop and point in front of my house, lol. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 07:03 PM
Sorry to hear that was a deal breaker.  Good luck.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 07:10 PM
Thanks Dave. That wasn't the only reason, just the final one. The proverbial straw. It has three fuel tanks and the PO found it necessary to pull the mechanical fuel pump (I can do that repair, done it on the IH) and installing an electric one in the cab sucking from a five gallon can lol. But dropping the tanks and/or chasing down a any associated issues is too much asking with the oil pan and other stuff. I have no clue how much to ask? i?? , you ?  W%
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 07:15 PM
As far as value, that always depends on condition.  JD (JDexper) most likely has the best idea on value for an F-17 though.

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 23, 2014, 07:21 PM
Thanks again Dave and everyone
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Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 25, 2014, 03:06 PM
Ok, for the time being, I'm gonna keep the Lil guy and putz with what is within my capabilities. It's just so darn cute and unique.  :-[
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: legomybago on March 25, 2014, 03:54 PM
Sometimes the "over whelming" factor comes in to play when your working on these older rigs...thats when you step back, take a break, dont touch the rig for a week or two. This is one BIG reason for keeping up on the "to do list" as issues occur down the road...Of coarse.... you have to get to the point of having a managable list first!! hahaha :)
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Post by: Froggy1936 on March 25, 2014, 04:23 PM
Lucy, Here is a idea that will help put your mind at ease till you figure out the dip stick problem. Drain the engine oil into a clean container . If the drained oil looks clean measure it (put it into a empty gallon container with a visable window in the container and measurements) Then refill the engine 5 qts should be enough (use the old oil if its good or use new) . The filter can be left as is if the oil looks clean if not change it also and add an additional qt of oil If the engine does not smoke when running you should be good for at least 500 mi or till you get some way to measure it . Whatever do not continue to run it without knowing there is enough oil or your problems could  increase 10 fold .Frank
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Post by: JDxeper on March 25, 2014, 04:44 PM
Ok     I have a pan with the dipstick, do you want it?   Just have to lift it up with the front loader and unbolt it.  Shipping should not be too much.  Send me a PM with shipping instructions if you want it.  Best deal in town! :)clap
I have the motor just for the manifolds, needed to part it out anyway.
BTW, I think Dave was right, they changed pans for some reason.  You could also drill out the port hole for the dipstick, but it might be easier to replace pan!
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Post by: DaveVA78Chieftain on March 25, 2014, 06:35 PM
Yeah JD!   :)clap :)clap :)clap   Go! GO!   ;)

Dave
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: LittleLucy27 on March 25, 2014, 07:10 PM
Thank you so much! I'll pm you.
That's just awesomeness  :)clap :)clap
Title: Re: 67 Lifetime - where is the dipstick for the oil?
Post by: Stripe on March 26, 2014, 03:52 AM
I absolutely love this site and all of you guys!!