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Title: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 22, 2012, 05:12 PM
first thing,MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!! I'm getting ready to tell my indian adventure story,  with pics of course, so get ready, lets see if this works. just figured out how to resize my pics so wish me luck, should be interesting i hope. story begins in the fall of 2011 bought it from a freind it was at his farm here in wi.


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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 22, 2012, 05:55 PM
woo hoo !! got to know this guy through a freind a few years ago, this was setting in his farm yard and in pretty tough shap by first/ all apperance. dirty, setting in the weed, awning tore off (frame still there and attached )beer cans in the sink, carpet pretty much black,bird fethers inside, roof leaks in the back , you get he picture , pretty tough shape . sorry no pics from then. my plan was to strip it for parts to use in my semi. refg  was in good shape and i had some other ideas as i am building a custom interior in my big truck (007)if you see me holler, hey hi-tech on the radio ch19 of course  if you have a menards in you state i've probaly been there


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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on December 22, 2012, 07:30 PM
Pretty cool!  I can wait for more pictures and the rest of the story!


Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on December 22, 2012, 07:47 PM
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 22, 2012, 09:00 PM
so i met paul through a freind about a year or so before i bought this, it was at the family farm which was vacant but he farmed it and lived elsewhere and used the motorhome when he worked there as a place to sleep rather than driving home, hence the beer cans dirty black carpet ect. he traded a atv for this thing years before took it camping once or twice then his kids used it once a year to camp over 4th of july a couple times never changed it into his name but signed the title in case he or them would get pulled over, (we'll get into that later)

so one afternoon i stopped over with a 30pack of bush lite and we started chatin about the indian said he had the title some where and we could make a deal on the parts and he would take the skidsteer after the rest and get rid of it.  cool, at that time i just wanted the fridge and any other parts i could use in my truck so we took the 30pk out to the winnie wiped the bird feathers off the table and stared looking her over. well the outside was in decent shape, no broken windows ect had all lights tires pretty nice humm. lets plug it in, and hook up some propane, found the tanks in the barn one still had gas in it so here we go, stove lights, ovens like new inside with broiler pan and lights,  cool, refg lights and gets cold, cool, hot water heater lights ,oh ya heater lits also  . had to plug and unplug a couple times and the lights and compressor comes on ,converter works  :)ThmbUp at this point i'm thinking... he says it drove itself to this spot and it ran a couple years ago Hm? 

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 22, 2012, 09:05 PM
thats a later pic , don't have any from the farm .and that's not the same 30pk W%
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: cosmic on December 22, 2012, 11:29 PM
OK you got my attention. I'm signed up. keep it coming.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 23, 2012, 12:39 AM
on to the inside,all the cabinets are in great shape,if fact in one of the cabinets above the tableall the orignal books and paper work from the orig owner are there,with notes  pretty cool. bathrooms in great shape, roof in the back was leaking and saged with a little water damage on one wall but the floor seemed solid . seat covers are junk but the foam was good
on the back sofa and dinette. 60,000 on the odometer,dash nice, drivers and pass seat nice,pull down bunk over the drivers seat nice and orig am radio that works

so now for a price, told paul 800 if i can drive it home, 500 if i strip all the parts i want. he agreed. now it's time to mak it run, stuffed in a battery and it started for about 30 sec, good enough for today,bleed some brakes and see if it drives will be next so i shot the bleder screws with some penatrating oil , checked the brake fluid, empty ,topped it off, let it set till the next weekend, now it gets fun,who says you need gasoline to drive a gas engine?? ,brakes there kinda optional also

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 23, 2012, 11:12 AM
thanks mark for helping me out with moving this around and coming up with the new name ( perfect) and the other tips you provided. like i said "the fun begins"  i've reliezed these things grow on a person , wish  i would have taken more pics right from the start D:oH! ,got them in my mind,just hope i'm describing things good  enough untill my brain catches up with my camera :)rotflmao  ENJOY THE RIDE!!
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Oz on December 23, 2012, 11:20 AM
This is a fantastic topic.  So many of us have gone through it and there's always something new to learn each time.  I guess it can only be described as a very "special" passion unique to us.  Some would think we're just stupid but, we know better.  It's just "how we roll". 


What's that gray post next to the driver's seat?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: HandyDan on December 23, 2012, 12:01 PM
ooh, ooh, ooh,  I know, I know.  Let me tell the answer! 
It is a light stand for a florescent desk lamp like what a drafter might use.  Am I right?   :)

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Elandan2 on December 23, 2012, 12:17 PM
ooh, ooh, ooh, I know, I know. Let me tell the answer!

I wonder where Dan has heard that before?   Hm?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on December 23, 2012, 09:17 PM
LOL!  You guys are too funny.  I love this forum!


Keep the story and the pics coming!  I love it!


Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Wantawinnie on December 23, 2012, 10:16 PM
Nice! I will be watching this one. Dad had a '73 Indian when I was a kid that got me hooked on these old beauties.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Oz on December 24, 2012, 09:47 AM
QuoteIt is a light stand for a florescent desk lamp like what a drafter might use.  Am I right?

OMG - Do I feel stupid?  No... it's... HOW stupid do I feel?!

:-[
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 24, 2012, 01:50 PM
you got it dan , pretty handy light even put my slippers on to take these pics , not to bad out  :)ThmbUp


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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: HandyDan on December 24, 2012, 03:02 PM
That looks just like the PIXAR light that completely stomps out the I in pixar at the start of each movie.  I always thought the light was a bully because it attacked the I completely unprevoked.  Yours looks very innocent, though, almost questioning why you are there spying on it.  I wonder what it does when you aren't looking??   Hm? :)rotflmao

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: DELTA912 on December 24, 2012, 03:15 PM
I'd like to own that type of lamp. Pixar Egg was funny too.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
 $@!#@! $@!#@! $@!#@! just typed for about 20 min , went to hit back space must have hit delete ,gone  D:oH!   3rd time i'v done that  even told myself the last time ,copy copy copy...time for a smoke. you're right dan , look close... the lights on but it's not plugged in??
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: HandyDan on December 24, 2012, 04:26 PM
Now that's spooky! ???
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 25, 2012, 11:31 AM
sat moring back to the farm, load up 10gal gas, brake fluid ,carb cleaner, wd40 and a 12pack of busch lite.
when i pull up pauls  underneith the winnie and he got three the bleeders loose, one front and both rears cool!
oh ya filling and checking the master cyl, what a pain in the but that is ,  if i would have had my sawzall with me there would be a hole in the floor right above the cover, so after about an hour or so alot of swearing couple of beers and a few smokes  the one front caliper bleeds nice i broke the bleeder on the other one  $@!#@!  but managed to get the line loose at the caliper and bleed good to that point, nothing coming out the rear bleeders but we got a pedel , i'll tell you what,round and round that thing, up and down check and fill the fluid $@!#@! $@!#@! the beer tasted pretty good at 9am and we got brakes  :)ThmbUp
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 25, 2012, 12:38 PM
next step, we are pretty sure it will stop,time to make it go. dump 5gal gas in each tank refill the carb with gas and carb cleaner she fires up and dies, runs and dieseach time it runs a little longer. after about 10 min of that it fires up and idles on it's own, not great, kinda missing  but not too bad, woohoo. drop it in gear it wants to go but we had to give it a pull to get it out of the holes it was stuck in. unhook throw it in drive and pull it up to the shop, good oil pressure, altenators charging  and the brakes worked ok :)clap . tranny fluid looks good but doesn't seen to be flowing the coolant so i shut it down and pulled the thermostat and now we got flow upper and lower hoses warm and the radiators warm  also :)ThmbUp . figured out it was missing on 4 plugs, every other one when i pulled the wires at the cap Hm?  spark at the cap and also had spark at the plug, well i brought might as well throw in a set, no problem right ,pass side piece of cake 5 min, drivers side what the  $@!#@! , after some more swearing anothe beer and a couple smokes i got them in,still missing Hm? . so i had paul put it in gear and step on the gas a little to put a load on it then i gave it a shot of card cleaner on the passenger side primary and she smoothed right out, cool pulled and plugged all the vacume line to elimate that possililty no differance re hooked them up gotta be a pluged up carb. so we took it for a couple spins around the farm paul driving me running the carb cleaner good to go and wouldn't do to bad once you got it going, time for  a beer and a smoke :)
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on December 25, 2012, 03:28 PM
Great story so far!  Beer and smokes always make the job easier!  Or in my case, a bit of good bourbon when the job's all done...lol


Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 25, 2012, 05:37 PM
time to hit the road.got a freind that lives about 5 mi away on the way to my house so i told paul lets see if it will make it to ricks, i'll take the motorhome and he can follow in my pickup with a tow strap and of course the beer in case we break down.  :)rotflmao  it went pretty good, went through a can of carb cleaner to get there and just about took out a mailbox D:oH!  (i swear that things bigger than my semi), but it made it :)ThmbUp  leave it at ricks for the night and come up with a plan for the 15mi trip home,about the last 5 are right through town os it's going to be interesting gota figure out a way to make it run better going down the road  and just have to use the carb cleaner when taking off from the stops Hm? . plan is to meet at ricks about 9;30 being sunday traffic should be lite as everyone should be at church praying i make it LOL. so rick paul and i pull up a couple lawn chairs open a couple cold ones and start brain storming a plan and rick was willing to help with whatever he could as now it's in his yard N:(  got it! trick i used years ago, propane!
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on December 25, 2012, 08:32 PM
There's a post on cutting a hole in the floor for the master brake cylinder however if you have to do it again go to the dollar store or I think you guys call it the Dollar General and buy one of those plastic Mustard or catchup dispenser's. Fill it with brake fluid an it's a cake walk to put brake fluid in the master cylinder.Turn the steering wheel to the left. Makes it easier to get at the master cylinder. Also pick up one of those flash lights that mounts on the brim of your ball cap..Big Help and a cheap mirror from the dollar general. For the cost yah might want to just replace the Voltage regulator, ballast resistor and voltage regulator. No reason just in expensive and then you know it's done. i??
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on December 31, 2012, 12:26 PM
thanks LJ, this fall i did just that. replaced the ingnition mod, ballest res and voltage reg. saved the old ones for back up. and the ketchup bottle is a great idea :)ThmbUp

so back to rick sunday moring, 10 more gal of gas and  grabbed the propane tank and hose fron the grill. the indian fires right up so as it warms up i get he propane set up ready and add 5more gal gas to eack tank  for good measure (fue gauge doesn't move when i flip the tank switch but i can hear the valve click so we'll see what happens)

so here's the plan , dad in front in my p/u with a tow rope and paul following in his truck with a tow rope so if she dies we can pull in either direction as needed :)rotflmao . ok lets go!!told dad to keep moving as i don't want to cone to a complete stop if i don't have to as it' a pain to get going from a dead stop. so laast check brakes ,ok, gas in the tanks ,propane tank next to the seat with the hose zip tied to the air cleaner stud feeding into the r/s of the carb and two cans of card cleaner for extra power when needed and a diet pepsi cause it going to get hot with the dog house cover off on the way home.

off we go put her in drive give her some gas and a shot of carb cleaner and we are rolling put down the carb cleaner and crack the valve on the propane tank and it's running nice on all 8 as long as i didn't get into the throttle to hard just kind crused it along :D . when we had to slow down or almost stop W%  had to adjust the propane grabe the carb cleaner  for take off and it went like that all the way home  :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp . had a couple issues on the ride,ran out of carb cleaner in the middle of town D:oH!  , that made getting going from the stop signs interesting  church got out there's three of them the street home, people pulling out in front of me $@!#@! , stop signs backed up, and did i mention hot,holly smokes it was hot in there!!, icing on the cake ... power steering belt broke three blocks from home.three right turns and one left , pulled in the drive way shut everything  down  and jumped out did i mention it was hot, but it's made it home on it's own :)clap :)clap  and drove pretty good all,things considered. first hing on the list, got through the carb ,and better brakes.

Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on December 31, 2012, 05:59 PM
 :)rotflmao Fantastic. I don't think anybody here can't relate to some part of that trip. Congratulations. Now the fun begins. Take your time,don't take any short cuts, do it right the first time and your going to and some grand adventures.Other guys put there money into hot rods or there daily drivers. Our Winnebago's are our hot rods but we get to take the hole family with us,we get to travel in comfort and once we get to destination we get to relax in style. :)ThmbUp
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 01, 2013, 12:28 PM
you're right LJ-TJ  it was one heck of a ride, wish i would have found this site alot sooner, ton of great info here!!,so first thing i do is pull the carb and throw a kit at it, worked great and runs like a champ :)clap couple spins around the block  all is  good. figured out what that fram filter is between the drivers seat and the wall, air filter for the brake boosters, did some more brake bleeding and shazam fluid comes out both rear bleeders and the pedel comes up nice plus you can hear the air moving through the filter, we got power brakes  :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp , much better than standing on the pedel to stop,[/size]

next hook up a a hose to check the water system and yup we got leaks ,first one is the line split by the water heater, quick fix cut it out and put in a  foot of heater hose double clamped on both ends good to go on that one, the other was tougher to get at, it was a line going to the sink in the closet under the heater, small split so i cut about a 1 inch piece of heater hos and split it so i could slide it over the coppper tubing and clamp right on the split, i know this is not the proper way to do ths but i'm trying to figure out where i stand before dumping alot of money into it other than the 800 i paid for it.turned the water back on no leaks and all the facets work  fine so i filled the tank turned on the compressor pumped to 45 or so pounds shut off and held  woohoo!! even fired up the water heater not long and i got hot and cold running water,time to do some cleaning :)clap sorry about the reuse of pics, this is closer to where they should be. i like to work  in a somewhat clean space so the winnie got a pressure washing  and interior clean  , steam cleaned the carpet 9 times turned out pretty good, orig green shag gotta love it,  old school baby!! i'm keeping it

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: junkyarddogfan on January 01, 2013, 03:40 PM
i thought the same thing about a 'trap door' for the brake fluid. just redid all the carpeting in my chieftain and had everything outta the cab area. figured this would be a piece of cake then to just cut a trap door in the floor to ease brake fluid install...no go. the floor is nothing but a thin piece of sheet metal and where the master cylinder is in comparison to where the seat bolts in along with there being no support for anything, one can't really do it without compromising the integrity of the floor as well as the seat mounts without major welding of square tubing around what would be the opening and relocating the seat mounts for the door to even be accessable. just a p*ss poor design on where they put the brake system imho.

glad u made it home safetly, heard many horror stories of guys trying that and burning something up just a mile from home...

also been in ur position once before but in a fully loaded semi, loaded with beer, lol.......clutch went out 340 miled from home, company wanted to fix truck at home rather than on the road....only way to get it going at stop signs and toll booths was to shut it off to get it to stop and start it up in gear when ready to go again...can't tell u how many close calls i had going thru muskogee when ppl would dart in front of me just as the truck fired up and lurched forward from a stop sign/red light...lol

winnie looks good, keep up the good resurrection work.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Froggy1936 on January 01, 2013, 04:06 PM
Reminds me of the time in my buddys 36 Ford when the fuel pump went bad on the way back to Pgh. from Geneva on the lake  we tide the hood down (fold up from ea side) and i rode on the fender pouring gasoline into carb from a pepsi bottle Till we found a place to purchase a fuel pump ahh memories !!  Frank
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 01, 2013, 05:13 PM
thanks for the info junkyard,checked  the brake fluid a couple different times this summer and so far staying full,they say horse power gets you down the track, torque gets you up the mountain or in your case starter torque to get 80,000lbs moving :)ThmbUp i've hit the starter on my big truck a couple times in gear the truck jumps and so does your heart D:oH!

geeze frank , i thought i had a wild ride, thats crazy!! gota do what ya gota do i??  better than pushing it to the parts store  Hm?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 01, 2013, 05:38 PM
Can't get the stupid grin off my face.  Have adder the fun has just begun. :)ThmbUp
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 01, 2013, 06:28 PM
so after a day of cleaning and empting the back spare parts area and wiping down and going through the cabinets.time to tear into the roof. but first make a run to the dmv to get the title straightend out and pick up plates in my name before spending any more money in case of a problem.only problem i had was i had to pay to transfer into his name as he signed the title then into mine 2 hrs and 250$ later i'm out he door :)ThmbUp and its mine and legal to drive. $1050.00 into it at this point. now lets fix the roof first thing,figure out how many feet i'm going to replace looks like from about the middle of the stove back has got to go, about 11feet Hm?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: rustyescott1 on January 01, 2013, 07:49 PM
i recamend doing the whole roof! would you put half a roof on your house?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: cosmic on January 01, 2013, 10:38 PM
roof or ceiling? or both?
great story so far. tick toc. the suspense is killing me man.
keep typing...............???????
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 01, 2013, 11:03 PM
Can you get us some pic's? Hm? Is it leaking now or can you get by for the time being? Hm?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 02, 2013, 12:41 AM
Here's the short version for now ,the roof was done with in a week of getting it home, i only had two days before i had to take  off again  this was  fall 2010, wish i knew about this site  back then, but i had to get it sealed up asap tore on a fri, built ,  installed and sealed up by dark on sat in my drive way, dad and i kicked some butt

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 02, 2013, 02:03 AM
just loaded a bunch of pics in the gallery  under 007 hope you can see them,be back with more of the story in a couple days ,later Mark-007
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: cosmic on January 02, 2013, 09:37 AM
remember mark. before you hit post. right click and copy. Took me a lot of losses before remembered to do this every single time. If your like me its painful enough typing it the first time.
if it disappears then right click and paste on new sheet. (typing back)
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 02, 2013, 10:32 AM
 . :laugh: Cosmic is right. Just right click...hit copy and then if you loose it,just right click and wallaaa!
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on January 02, 2013, 07:56 PM
The internet infrastructure has been changed to streamline things for people with super fast internet connections...even the new OS systems are designed for high speed connections.  Which leaves us folks with older systems and cell phone connections with stalled out uploads and downloads and lost info.

Copy and paste, copy and paste...its the only thing to do, but at least it works. 

Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Oz on January 02, 2013, 11:55 PM
If you're experiencing technical problems, please post them on the Get Help with Forum Features board rarther than on the topic itself.  That just detracts from the topic more than the technical issue already does. 

I did a test and found that the uploads start to bog down over 250kb in file size and at 5 - 6 attachments. So, I'm leaving the number of attachments at 4 per post and 300kb per photo.  There's really no need to post photos bigger than that.  This should also help to eliminate rejection due to encryption security checks possibly getting things jammed up.

I made a tweak which relates to encryption of downloaded images.  Hopefully, this helps. 

Please, continue with the project.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 04, 2013, 02:30 AM
back on topic this weekead ,thanks mark
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Mytdawg on January 23, 2013, 03:14 PM
This all looks very familiar somehow...  But I didn't have to rig propane etc.  I've gone about 200 miles so far with no brake lights.  (although I have running lights and a chase vehicle - usually)  These things are like giant white elephants.  I don't think anyone actually "sees" them.  You pull one out of a field and drive it through a busy town with some seriously sketchy safety equipment and people just drive around you.  Not that I'm complaining...   W%
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 23, 2013, 03:33 PM
 :)rotflmao So What's Your Point. :laugh:
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Mytdawg on January 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
Quote from: LJ-TJ on January 23, 2013, 03:33 PM
:)rotflmao So What's Your Point. :laugh:

I just figured it would be a cop magnet.  Seems to be quite the opposite.  I can live with that.  Let's just say that I um... have spoken with many officers?...   :-[
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on January 23, 2013, 06:45 PM
Speaking of which...Hey 007!!!  We want more of the story!!!  :D

Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Lefty on January 23, 2013, 07:17 PM
A roof job in 2 days... That's gotta be some kind of record!!
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 25, 2013, 02:17 AM
i'll do my best to  kick some more of the story out this weekend Hm?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 26, 2013, 01:09 PM
So here’s how the roof went. First thing , pulled the ac unit loose and lowered it down to the ground sliding it down the ladder, man that thing was heavy!!. Then pulled the railing, awning , ladder ,roof/refg vents off and the back spoiler thing off and I’m ready to go. Grab the 12foot step ladder ext cord and my skill saw and head to the roof.

Checked how far the water damage went on the inside to see where to make the saw cut.  As it worked out pretty close to where the cut was going to be there was a seem so I used that as a guide so I gt a straight cut. Of course dads a cabinet maker and has tendency to check and recheck, one of those measure twice cut once kind of guys which I am when I have the time, lol  but don’t have that kind of time so I set the depth so it would just saw through the inside and not leave a  big sawcut in the  cabinets, using the roof seam as a guide fired up the saw and made a cut clean across the roof and there ya go, we’re replacing that much roof.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 26, 2013, 01:39 PM
so now i know how much of the corner molding i have to pull,so dad grabs one screw gun and i grab the other and start pulling screws, lotsa screws . pull the molding and staples and the screws inside the cabinets holding the roof down i guess, there you go roofs loose. dad and i go inside pick it up and slide it back one good push and the roofs on the ground . it's built like a sandwich, roof metel, thin plywwood, sheet insulation,  vinal covered plywood for the ceiling all glued together, great idea :)ThmbUp
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 26, 2013, 01:55 PM
Pictures holy cow don't forget the pictures :)ThmbUp
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 26, 2013, 02:27 PM
well LJ here inlies the problem... iwas in such a hurry to get the roof off and on and at the time and i did not know about this site, i didn't take any with the roof off D:oH! . but i know everyone likes pictures so i found this :laugh:
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 26, 2013, 03:14 PM
 :)ThmbUp OK Touche  :)rotflmao
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 26, 2013, 04:35 PM
so after taking some numbers and coming up with a plan we will also build a sandwich. 3/8plywood thats vinyl coated on one side for the outside, 1/2pink foam insulation sheet in the middle, 3/8 plywood that i glued FRP sheets to so it would match the ceiling inside. so here's the materials list 3 sheets each of the above mentioned plywood, foam and frp,2gal contact cement, 6 tubes foam panel glue (calk gun type) 4- 8 foot pieces of 1x1 alumium angel (thin stuff for corner molding to hold the roof to the side) 5 tubes 100% silacone, couple short nap paint roller covers and roller pan inserts(to apply contact cement), couple boxes #10 x 3/4 stainless steel screws and 4-8foot plastic board connectors ( looks like a H turned sidways that i cut into a T to cover the seams on the roof side)$500 out the door lets go build a sandwich.

sometimes i crack myself up :)rotflmao
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 26, 2013, 05:28 PM
this is still the first day but by this time its late afternoon so the plan is to glue up the roof panels and let them set till morning. so first step is to glue the FRP to the plywood with the contact cement , coat both parts and let it tac up,we cut some wood strips to put between the plywwod and frp so we get it straight as possible because once they touch thats where it is, worked pretty good W% then i used my 100lb floorning roller to roll it for good contact, then flipped it over andand then  glued the foam to the other side and the vinyl coated plywood to that. that took till dark but went pretty well overall, nothing the table saw can't fix. i'm guessing everyone gets the idea but i figured i'd throw in a normal picture of what it kinda looked like
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on January 27, 2013, 11:21 AM
Good deal!  Glad you went wall to wall.  We did a partial roof repair on our first RV, The Ark, but didn't go wall to wall, and it started sagging at the AC unit with a month of doing the job.

Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 27, 2013, 12:42 PM
ya kevin it worked out great, and was the fastest  way to get it closed up

was going to take off for ohio but with the freezing rain and crappy weather figure i'll wait and take off in the morning,better than having to put the big truck in the ditch to avoid an accident. 500mi in that weather gets old fast!! N:(

Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 27, 2013, 03:02 PM
so first thing sat morning run the panels through the table saw to square up all the edgesto make a clean even looking panel. pretty nice having a  setup that if i needed i can rip a 4x8 sheet of plywood into 1inch strips by myself, either direction :) . just ran outside in the freezing rain and pulled a number off the roof (for the #s people) 7'9" side to side is what we cut the panels down to sit on the walls and inside the skin that makes up the sides as it sticks up above the wall to attach the roof.

time to get the tape measure out again as to figure out where the seems will end up in relationship to the vent pipes, and cabinets for best support and trying to not have a vent pipe end up a on a seem. as a side note there was a bed that folded out above the couch /bed in the back that wasn't going to be used again and was turned into a cabinet.

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 27, 2013, 03:14 PM
the pic above is where the new roof starts. i made the trim boards in the shop to cover the seems out  of oak stained to match the cabinets as close as possible. and i aslo built the faceframe and doors for the cabinet above the bed , this gave alot of support to the seem in the back and the storage is great for pillows and blankets

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 27, 2013, 03:57 PM
here's the pictures from the roof. front to back . first sheet i ripped down so the seem between the second and third sheet landed on the wall of the closet on one side and bathroom on the other,gave it i clean look and lots of support. as you can see the one vent pipe landed on a seem ,i think it's from the shower, at this point i hadn;t cut in the fridge vent  but i did that the folling weekend. after getting the roof panels in place i silaconed it me t strip covering the outside seems screwed the roof back down to the cabinets from the inside. then i had to cut and fit my aluminun angel set up a jig on the drill press to pre drill the holes added a bead of silacone aand screwed it to the roof first then to the sides,worked out great no leaks and you could hold a dance up there now :) :)  what do you think , not bad for two days work. took me longer to tell this part of the story than to do the work :)rotflmao  hope i explaned it ok Hm? there is more to this story but the mighty winnabago got a roof :)ThmbUp

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Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: LJ-TJ on January 27, 2013, 05:37 PM
 :)ThmbUp WOW! Nicely done. Looks fantastic. :)clap
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Lefty on January 27, 2013, 09:25 PM
I'm highly impressed. Roof replacements are the one thing with these old rigs that are most often needed, cost a fortune to have professionally done, and scare the crap out of most new owners. Thanks for taking the time to give everyone a great detailed guide on how you did yours.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: ClydesdaleKevin on January 28, 2013, 10:32 AM
Outstanding!  I can't wait to here more of the story!

Kev
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on January 29, 2013, 11:05 PM
thanks everyone, turned out pretty good. next up,getting that ac unit back up on the roof Hm? , repaire split water lines,inverter install and as we all know the list goes on.and i will also have some question as i go , but thanks to all the great people and tons of info on this site makes me want to do it right. for example; now i'm thinking solar for the motorhome and the big truck Hm? thanks kevin for the great solar info, might have to take a road trip and meet you and see your setup when you come to kenosha,  and  thanks everyone else that contrubets to this site!! i will also try to help if i can .  mark
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on March 05, 2013, 02:40 PM
so now that the roofs on and all sealed up it's time to cut some holes in it, first one is the refridge vent. that vent pretty well , used a sheet rock square to line it up down the side , hole saw and a jig saw to cut the hole, painted the vent cover white.couple beads of silicone and scerwed it to the roof. perfect
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on March 05, 2013, 02:53 PM
next up the roof ac, one time the ac worked, (meaning the pump kicked in) and when it kicks in you know it, but just before un hooking it, the pump didn't kick in so i wasn't going to install it before i was sure it worked and got cold. over the winter it went into my mini storage , so dad and i went over and got it set it on some saw horses and fire it up ao a ext cord figured out where the hi ac was on the switch was after finding the decal and after running a couple min the compressor kicked in and blew cold air, woohoo

Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on March 05, 2013, 03:32 PM
as everyone knows cutting a hole in a perfectly good roof better done right and in the right spot. so after going up and down the ladder 5-6 times and alot of measurements so it ends up in the right and looks like it should from the inside which was the important part to me i made a template and drilled holes on the 4 corners from the inside out the went back up on the roof and cut it out. couple more bead of 100% silicone and screwed the base plate to the roof.

now to get the unit back up there Hm? since the is a tree with a decent size branch sticking out over the motor home where i park it we made i sling for the unit and ran a rope over the branch (wish i had a pulley)hoisted it up and backed the winnie under it and lowered it down kepping it flat the whole time , worked great  :)clap but i have to say mom was shaking her head thought we were a little nuts, but nobody got hurt and we got the jod done!! bolted it down,painted the inside and outside covers and wired it up  and shazam, got air and it looks like new :)
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: cosmic on March 05, 2013, 04:13 PM
thats called thinking outside the box. Something men just do little better. lol :)rotflmao
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: 007 on May 02, 2013, 01:22 PM
so last weekend fired up the mighty indian and pulled it out where i could get at it, over the winter mom made new covers for the dinette she even made the beading for the corners :)ThmbUp . looks great old school green cloth just what i wanted , gotta love mom. anyway after shovling the roof off a couple times this winter i managed to create a leak at one of my seams when i caught that t-moulding i made with the shovel and ice chopper D:oH! , next winter i'll build A-frames  and set up a ridge beam and tarp it so the snow and ice slide right off. over the winter i ordereed some eterna bond tape because of what i read on this site and i gotta say HOLY $@!#@!  that stuff sticks, infact once i got started i tore all the T-moulding off, cleaned off the silicon and crap with a scotchbrite pad and brake cleaner and layed down the eterna bond tape and rolled it with my laminte roller wow thats good stuff. in fact while shoveling a hit my roof vent cover and it was so brittle it broke the hinge off the plastic  $@!#@!  so used the eternabond for a hinge,also ordered one of those covers so i can leave it open all the time, screwed it down and good to go.

by the way did i mention, todd, the guy i got the onan from sent two full rolls of eternebond, two tubes of proflex rv caulk in with the gen shipment  THANKS TODD!!

did i mention that tape is sticky!! the last of that roll went in my semi, you never know Hm?

next post; gen install , new led clearence lights and eye brow decal( wish i'd trimmed my down after seeing the other post)

did also mention it was 75-80 here the other day, today it's snowing, 4-5 inches on the ground and still coming down, ac going full blast in my semi in Madison wi. yesterday heat on 3hrs later when i got to Eau Claire wi.(home) crazy i??
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: burt6666 on December 20, 2013, 03:59 PM
Any updates ?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Jonbbrew on May 12, 2016, 02:07 AM
Quote from: 007 on January 01, 2013, 12:28 PM
you're right LJ-TJ  it was one heck of a ride, wish i would have found this site alot sooner, ton of great info here!!,so first thing i do is pull the carb and throw a kit at it, worked great and runs like a champ :)clap couple spins around the block  all is  good. figured out what that fram filter is between the drivers seat and the wall, air filter for the brake boosters, did some more brake bleeding and shazam fluid comes out both rear bleeders and the pedel comes up nice plus you can hear the air moving through the filter, we got power brakes  :)ThmbUp :)ThmbUp , much better than standing on the pedel to stop,

next hook up a a hose to check the water system and yup we got leaks ,first one is the line split by the water heater, quick fix cut it out and put in a  foot of heater hose double clamped on both ends good to go on that one, the other was tougher to get at, it was a line going to the sink in the closet under the heater, small split so i cut about a 1 inch piece of heater hos and split it so i could slide it over the coppper tubing and clamp right on the split, i know this is not the proper way to do ths but i'm trying to figure out where i stand before dumping alot of money into it other than the 800 i paid for it.turned the water back on no leaks and all the facets work  fine so i filled the tank turned on the compressor pumped to 45 or so pounds shut off and held  woohoo!! even fired up the water heater not long and i got hot and cold running water,time to do some cleaning :)clap sorry about the reuse of pics, this is closer to where they should be. i like to work  in a somewhat clean space so the winnie got a pressure washing  and interior clean  , steam cleaned the carpet 9 times turned out pretty good, orig green shag gotta love it,  old school baby!! i'm keeping it

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Looking good. My brake problem is they are touchy as all heck...Feathering is a chore...i mean they are on or off, no in between. Did a bleed but still not sure what the deal is. Havent got around to a wheel off day. At 40 mph plus there is a high pitch cherp from the front right...wheel bearing? Brake adjustment? not sure...will start with that tire one day but need to pick up some big wrenches.
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Rickf1985 on May 14, 2016, 07:08 PM
Did you get all the return springs on in the right order and did you get the primary and secondary shoes in the right positions?
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Jonbbrew on May 14, 2016, 09:13 PM
Quote from: Rickf1985 on May 14, 2016, 07:08 PM
Did you get all the return springs on in the right order and did you get the primary and secondary shoes in the right positions?


If you are talking about my comment....I don't know. I haven't done any work on the brakes since I have owned it. Plus, when I do get in the wheel, I'm not sure i would know if it was not put together right.  Is there a diagram?


Honestly this is my biggest headache and fear as not being able to stop this rig would be a nightmare!
Title: Re: 1973 Indian Resurrection
Post by: Rickf1985 on May 15, 2016, 10:37 AM
There are many diagrams and the manuals will have pictures but probably the easiest way nowadays is to Google something like "proper drum brake assembly".