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Offline Stripe

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External Storage latches
« on: May 30, 2013, 11:55 PM »
Anyone ever seen latches like these? And maybe have a source to get two more?
Not a single one on ANY of the rv's at my favorite picking spot.







Any and ALL help is always appreciated..


Fredric
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 08:49 AM »
Does it have to be locking? I found these on Amazon.com:


Amico Electricity Cabinet Chrome Plated Adjustable Panel Lock MS708


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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 11:29 AM »
It's a cabinet latch, alright.  And they are available with locks.  I'm looking at one right now (with a lock), just like the ones you're looking for.  They're typically installed in office cabinets.
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 12:37 PM »
Sweet, good find, wonder why I couldn't find that when I googled it??? ???   And no it doesn't have to have the lock as I can take the tumblers from the busted latches and put them in the good ones.

Mark, you have a cabinet with the same latches that latches?? Or were you just at a store?

Thanks guys.. :)

Fredric

PS Just for giggles, I think I am going to design a powered drawer opener for these, just to see if I can, using a 12v motor with a worm gear on it to do the job.. 
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 01:00 PM »
Those latches I found didnt have the provision for a lock.
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 01:14 PM »
I'll source the latches locally, now that I know their broader range of application.

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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 10:22 PM »
 
 
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PS Just for giggles, I think I am going to design a powered drawer opener for these

New topic - and would be a good project as it could be used and modified for other things - like making your own, powered battery and generator tray?  - oooooh, may be on to something there.
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 10:31 PM »
Younz guys  Those are toys for the rich people !!! Frank
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 10:31 PM »
@ Frank - the best thing is when you can do what the rich do and NOT be rich.  Oh they so hate when we do that...
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2013, 10:32 PM »
Sorry, Fredric... the locking latches are installed in commercial, metal cabinets at my work. I'll see if I can get any information on the manufacturer tomorrow.
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2013, 11:26 PM »
Hey Mark, that would be fantastic, Thanks!

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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 11:35 AM »
The manufacturer is DaLite/Advance.

The lock/latch is used on a rolling laptop cart.

Here is the link to the diagram/parts list which shows the unit.  The latch is shown in the middle area.

http://www.da-lite.com/products/parts_pdfs/356.pdf

Here is the main website link, they have a live chat so, you may well be able to get the latch/lock.  I don't have a camera here to show a photo of it but, it looks exactly like the ones shown above and in your own application - with a lock in the smaller, latch retainer instead of separate from it...  Lever Latch #5696

http://www.da-lite.com/products/product.php?cID=69&pID=356
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 01:54 PM »
Thanks, Mark, I wll be contacting the nearest dealer as Da-Lite support said I can order the part through a dealer..

Fredric
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 07:13 PM »
Holiday Rambler in the mid to late eighties used Southco exclusively...might have had a different name then, but the compartment keys and latches are Southco, and these latches you took pictures of are just like mine on my genny/battery compartment.  And just a side note, those stupid round refridgerator type key latches on our HR compartments have a totally different bore diameter than standard key latches, so you'll either have to use spacer washers if you ever want to replace them, or buy new ones from Southco.  You can Google Southco and see all the latch/lock combinations...and yep, yours are on there.  If you try to purchase, you'll be redirected to Uglyfish.com.  They are based in Bunnell, Florida...coincidently, right next door to Thunder Gulch Campground where we used to stay the winters when we did the Florida shows.

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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 11:28 PM »
Sweet!  Thanks for the info, I'll post shots of what my compartments look like so we can compare notes..

Fredric
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2013, 03:58 AM »
Kevin, as promised, all the doors and latches on my Imperial 28

Genny Hatch (with refurbed thumb latches)

A little wire brushing, wd-40 cleaning and white lithium grease and your there.
As you can see the lamination came completely off (was like this when I got it).  The PO was using duct tape and a wire to keep it closed.  All I had to do after refurbing the thumb turn latches (which I did with all the thumb latches on this RV) I just tightened the retainer nuts and the door was good to go. Next task on this will be to clean the tape goo off and brillo pad the aluminum frame.
Also, I may be able to recycle the lock tumblers from the old quick release latches and replace the thumb turns with them so I can lock the Genny door.

The Starboard aft storage drawer.

This photo is before I replaced the latches.

Access door for the Propane tank.

Thumb latches are on this one.

Front grille (quick release) and Small access doors(thumb turn)

I modified the metal bar to hold the doors open a little higher.

My Battery Compartment door.

This has locks, but the genny door didn't??

Last but not least the Port side storage drawer.

Again, pre latch replacement.

Fredric

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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2013, 09:45 AM »
Since mine has pass-through basement storage, the only compartment we have that has the flip latches like yours is the genny compartment, and the only compartments that has thumb turn latches with no lock is the sewer/power compartment and the propane door.  Every other compartment has those stupid round refrigerator key type locks with the larger than normal bore diameter, necessitating that we purchase the new locks from Southco/Uglyfish.  I've tried new keys from Uglyfish, since the only key I had was pretty worn down across the lands, but the lock cylinders themselves are getting worn out, and I now have to hold the key in a pair of vice grips to get enough force, pushing inward, to turn the locks to open and close compartments.  And its only getting worse.  Its on my list of things to replace when we get to New York.  I might go with one thumb latch and one key latch per compartment, since the thumb latches are only around 10 bucks a piece, and the key latches are 40 bucks each...ouch!!!  5 locking compartments times 50 bucks...oi vey!  Could be worse if it was 5 times 80 bucks!

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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2013, 04:56 PM »
Kevin, I was having sticking problems with my locks and thumb turn latches, I.E. Hard to turn, sticking, etc.. 
What I did was take them apart, wire brush them clean(use brass brush BTW) with a little wd-40 to help then wipe them off apply white lithium grease to the barrels and the inside of the latch as well.. Then while putting the barrel (locking or otherwise) back into the latch cylinder housing, rotate it to spread the grease around evenly.  After that just play around with it a bit..
Oh, also, my Uncle Donald owns one of the biggest locksmith shops in CNY, Fradon Lock Co. (Stands for Fra nk and Don) http://www.fradonlock.com/   If you can measure that barrel key, I'll give him or my cousins a ring and see if there is anything they can do..

Fredric
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2013, 08:56 PM »
So, it was a no go on recycling the lock tumblers, too short for the thumb turn shafts.. Otherwise, they DO lock. Just not long enough to bolt the latch tongue to the tumbler..

Fredric
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Re: External Storage latches
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2013, 09:26 AM »
Thanks Frederick...but been down this road, which is why I'll end up going with Southco/Uglyfish.  The lock mechanisms themselves are oversize, so only direct replacements will fit in the holes in the doors...and the lock barrels are proprietary...you can get replacements from Southco, but they are only a few bucks cheaper than the whole lock mechanism...Oi vey!  Once we land in NY I'll let you know what we end up doing, but its getting to the point now where I'm afraid I won't be able to open and close compartments if I don't do something soon.  And yep, disassembled and reassembled the locks with white grease and graphite, and its just that they are now worn out...the lands inside the round opening that accepts the key are almost non existant on most of the locks, thus the reason I have to force the key inward with vice grips while turning them.

Kev
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